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The Second Amendment was Ratified to Preserve Slavery

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#1 Nonny

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 01:15 PM

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The Second Amendment was Ratified to Preserve Slavery

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The real reason the Second Amendment was ratified, and why it says "State" instead of "Country" (the Framers knew the difference - see the 10th Amendment), was to preserve the slave patrol militias in the southern states, which was necessary to get Virginia's vote.  Founders Patrick Henry, George Mason, and James Madison were totally clear on that . . . and we all should be too.
In the beginning, there were the militias. In the South, they were also called the "slave patrols," and they were regulated by the states.
In Georgia, for example, a generation before the American Revolution, laws were passed in 1755 and 1757 that required all plantation owners or their male white employees to be members of the Georgia Militia, and for those armed militia members to make monthly inspections of the quarters of all slaves in the state.  The law defined which counties had which armed militias and even required armed militia members to keep a keen eye out for slaves who may be planning uprisings.
As Dr. Carl T. Bogus wrote for the University of California Law Review in 1998, "The Georgia statutes required patrols, under the direction of commissioned militia officers, to examine every plantation each month and authorized them to search 'all Negro Houses for offensive Weapons and Ammunition' and to apprehend and give twenty lashes to any slave found outside plantation grounds."
It's the answer to the question raised by the character played by Leonardo DiCaprio in Django Unchained when he asks, "Why don't they just rise up and kill the whites?"  If the movie were real, it would have been a purely rhetorical question, because every southerner of the era knew the simple answer: Well regulated militias kept the slaves in chains.
Sally E. Haden, in her book Slave Patrols: Law and Violence in Virginia and the Carolinas, notes that, "Although eligibility for the Militia seemed all-encompassing, not every middle-aged white male Virginian or Carolinian became a slave patroller." There were exemptions so "men in critical professions" like judges, legislators and students could stay at their work.  Generally, though, she documents how most southern men between ages 18 and 45 - including physicians and ministers - had to serve on slave patrol in the militia at one time or another in their lives.
And slave rebellions were keeping the slave patrols busy.
By the time the Constitution was ratified, hundreds of substantial slave uprisings had occurred across the South.  Blacks outnumbered whites in large areas, and the state militias were used to both prevent and to put down slave uprisings.  As Dr. Bogus points out, slavery can only exist in the context of a police state, and the enforcement of that police state was the explicit job of the militias....

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#2 G-man

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 03:45 PM

I had no idea.

The rest of that article that you linked to in your post is interesting as well.

I had always assumed that "state" = "nation" or "country", that they actually meant "State" as in Virginia, Alabama, etc. is certainly a revelation.

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#3 Nonny

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 04:56 PM

It is a real shocker, isn't it?
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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:58 PM

An equally good read is what happened to/with those militias after slavery was abolished. A good many gravitated to the KKK, the most politically active got involved with lobbying the Dixiecrats in the 1870's to impose Segregation and end Reconstruction, and the NRA and their Republican affiliates such as the KKK tried their level best to take the law into their own hands (eg: lynching) while interfering with the legal and political machinery to do anything about it.

There is a strong correlation between this pattern of backroom dealing and deceit and the modus operandi of the modern Republican party (eg: George Bush's flaunting of the Constitution and interfering with the law of the land).
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 12:04 PM

Refutations abound:

http://www.eurasiare...e-slavery-oped/

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I wrote to Jeffrey Rogers Hummel, an historian who has written at some length about the history of American militia and whose working paper Deadweight Loss and the American Civil War: The Political Economy of Slavery, Secession, and Emancipation extensively discusses slave patrols as a key method by which slaveowners socialized the costs of slavery’s enforcement.
Hummel’s response to the Second Amendment slavery theory? Don’t buy it. Hartmann’s argument is overstated “to put it mildly.” In particular, the argument suffers from “presentism, back-dated from the Civil War, where everything that happened prior in U.S. history was driven by slavery.”

http://www.theroot.c...tect-slavery-no

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Still, however committed one may be to a political outcome, it serves no purpose to make historical arguments that are demonstrably wrong, misleading and inconsistent with what happened. Hartmann does not serve his cause well by purporting to write history when his version of history is mostly wrong, and very misleading.

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