Cait, on 04 April 2013 - 01:10 PM, said:
DarthMarley, on 04 April 2013 - 10:55 AM, said:
Hey, these kind of conservatives are an embarassment to conservative who actually have informed opinions.
I can admit that among "conservatives" are racists and theocrats looking to piggy-back their pet agenda onto the conservative bandwagon.
Pretty much like there have been socialists and communists doing the same with the liberals.
Well said, and I think I'm going to try and use a different word to describe the ones in the GOP we are really talking about, maybe "reactionaries". Try and separate them a little from Conservatives or Republicans. They do in fact have different agendas as you have stated, just like Socialists and Communists did and do in the Democratic Party. It pays for all of us to be able to distinguish these groups one from another. Saves us the "all" Republicans or "all" Democrats debate.
Getting labels right might not be so important. Plenty of harsh words and invective would not offend me.
As I see it, the problem is when persuasion stops and name calling begins.
It is fine to speak out passionately against something you think is wrong.
But if you can't explain why you think it is wrong, there isn't much to the message rather than an assertion of power.
People who want to establish state religions, ban blowjobs, or make legal abortions inconvenient (or make gun ownership inconvenient for that matter) need to have their error explained.
If all they can come up with to defend their view is a "But it is against GOD!!!" or "Won't someone think of the children!!!" then we will at least have spelled the error (as we see it) out for other reasonable people to better be able to determine their opinion.
Edited by DarthMarley, 04 April 2013 - 02:03 PM.