scherzo, on 25 August 2013 - 08:43 PM, said:
People should only be locked up when they become a public safety hazard.
I'm sure Bernie Madoff would concur.
I'm sure he wouldn't. Nor would half of Wall street. I can think of plenty of punishments that would fit the crime and protect the public from further crimes of anyone like Madoff, and they don't include locking him up. But, then I knew I have a minority opinion on what should constitute being locked up. You don't seem to mind spending taxpayer money on prisons, but I do. I'd have made Madoff take a job at MacDonald's and pay off everyone he stole from from his wages. But, that's me. When I can find a solution that doesn't cost taxpayers, I usually get quite fond of it.
Snap out of it Cait. A few months ago some freak aimed his gun at an infant's face and fired. If government was for some ridiculous reason restricted from punishing this vermin, the public would be absolutely justified in going full vigilante.(with torches, pitchforks...the whole shebang) There's nothing noble or high-minded about rejecting our completely appropriate anger at thieves and killers. At the very least most people get that devastating consequences for criminals, discourages their activity.
I don't know what you think I said, but obviously your comprehension isn't up to par tonight. So, let me elaborate a little. If I ruled the world, there would be no "twinkie defense", there would be no battered spouse syndrome. There would be no temporary insanity, etc. Why? Because it goes against the notion of public safety. Temporarily insane? Well, you might go temporarily insane again. Battered spouse? You might go crazy on the next poor guy? It might mitigate punishment, but not guilt.
I prefer the absolute clarity of public safety as a foundation in criminal law. Luckily, that just about always covers public outrage, deterrence, punishment, revenge, and any other emotion the public would like to vent in the wake of crime. But, the legal foundation should always be "The public Safety". If the public gets their hard on as well, so be it.
So, you snap out of it, and read what I wrote. Try not to read it through the rose colored pinko glasses you think color all my opinions. Anyone who put a gun into the face of a child is a threat to public safety. Where you get the idea that it isn't is beyond me, but whatever. Sometimes your positions don't make any sense to me.