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#1 Nonny

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Posted 05 September 2013 - 03:25 PM

Rapist collapses in terror when police report that his victim was HIV-positive
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A 27-year-old man named Richard Thomas collapsed in terror when police informed him that the woman he admitted to raping was HIV-positive. According to a BBC report, Thomas is currently waiting for his own test results to return.
Thomas had by his own admission taken alcohol, Ecstasy and cocaine on the night when he broke into the Greater Manchester, U.K. home of his victim. The woman had taken a sleeping pill and only woke up when Thomas had already penetrated her from behind...
His attorney, Virginia Hayton said, “It is his own fault, if he had not committed this offense he would not have placed himself in this position.”


Karma's a, well, you know.   :lol:   And his own lawyer put him down.   :howling:

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Posted 05 September 2013 - 05:34 PM

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Thomas had by his own admission taken alcohol, Ecstasy and cocaine on the night when he broke into the Greater Manchester, U.K. home of his victim.
That's quite the substance cocktail there. If nothing else he seems highly qualified to open next year's VMA show. :eek:

I'd love to think this guy contracted HIV from this, but the UK taxpayers would probably get the bill for his treatment in prison.
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#3 sierraleone

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Posted 05 September 2013 - 05:54 PM

View Postscherzo, on 05 September 2013 - 05:34 PM, said:

I'd love to think this guy contracted HIV from this, but the UK taxpayers would probably get the bill for his treatment in prison.

I think most would rather a HIV+ rapist be in jail and being treated then be out raping and infecting other people. :)

I am morbidly curious - do known HIV+ prisoners get raped at a lower rate than the average prisoner? I guess I am wondering whether enough prisoners just don't care/don't know better and/or force/threaten others to do it as punishment and/or if it depends on the crime of the HIV+ prisoner.

Edited by sierraleone, 05 September 2013 - 05:54 PM.

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 11:32 AM

I wouldn't mind some of my taxes going to keeping that animal in prison.
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Posted 07 September 2013 - 01:00 PM

Actually, once you get past the 'karma, it works' stage of reasoning, the future concerns me a great deal regarding this fellow. He's already demonstrated his willingness to violate people, and sooner or later he is likely to be released. Which means that if he re-offends, he'll be spreading his infection to add to the trauma of rape/

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 01:31 PM

My views about what should happen to rapists are...extreme.  Let's just say they involve neither prison nor release (except from this mortal coil).
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Posted 08 September 2013 - 09:47 AM

View PostBad Wolf, on 07 September 2013 - 01:31 PM, said:

My views about what should happen to rapists are...extreme.  Let's just say they involve neither prison nor release (except from this mortal coil).

I don't approve personally of goverment approved killing. Goverment approved castration for rapists I'm less fussy about.

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 10:37 AM

There are ways to violate someone without using an organ.  Sorry to be so stark about it but there it is.  I view society as an organism.  When an organism finds it has cancer, it does not tuck it away at the expense of the rest of the body, it does everything it can to kill it.  And if it doesn't?  It dies.
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Posted 08 September 2013 - 10:51 AM

View PostBad Wolf, on 08 September 2013 - 10:37 AM, said:

There are ways to violate someone without using an organ.  Sorry to be so stark about it but there it is.  I view society as an organism.  When an organism finds it has cancer, it does not tuck it away at the expense of the rest of the body, it does everything it can to kill it.  And if it doesn't?  It dies.

Which I would support as and when we can be sure we're not zapping innocent cells along with the cancerous ones. Sure, you can't make an omelet without breaking some eggs, but I tend to think most people would object if they were the ones who were innocent and being made into omelets.

Are you familiar with the innocence project

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 11:56 AM

I'm familiar with the Innocence Project.  I am also familiar with the difficulty of bringing a rapist to justice, even if he boasts about his crimes, because he will testify that he knew the woman whose life he invaded actually consented, since every time she screamed NO, he knew she really meant yes, and that, sadly, is taken as "reasonable" doubt.
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Posted 08 September 2013 - 12:07 PM

View PostNonny, on 08 September 2013 - 11:56 AM, said:

I'm familiar with the Innocence Project.  I am also familiar with the difficulty of bringing a rapist to justice, even if he boasts about his crimes, because he will testify that he knew the woman whose life he invaded actually consented, since every time she screamed NO, he knew she really meant yes, and that, sadly, is taken as "reasonable" doubt.

I should point out that the innocence project is not solely concerned with sexual crimes. I consider rape a vile crime. However that by no means should be taken as support for the death penalty.

Edited by Godeskian, 08 September 2013 - 12:08 PM.

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#12 Nonny

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 02:53 PM

View PostGodeskian, on 08 September 2013 - 12:07 PM, said:

View PostNonny, on 08 September 2013 - 11:56 AM, said:

I'm familiar with the Innocence Project.  I am also familiar with the difficulty of bringing a rapist to justice, even if he boasts about his crimes, because he will testify that he knew the woman whose life he invaded actually consented, since every time she screamed NO, he knew she really meant yes, and that, sadly, is taken as "reasonable" doubt.

I should point out that the innocence project is not solely concerned with sexual crimes. I consider rape a vile crime. However that by no means should be taken as support for the death penalty.

Since I am familiar with the Innocence Project, I am actually aware of that.  However, the vilest crime that anyone has gotten away with committing against me is, indeed, rape, so rape is something I am also familiar with, hence my choice of example.
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