

Congratulations Tea Party members
#1
Posted 05 October 2013 - 08:04 AM
To thwart the dastardly commie plot of Obamacare--which the ever-sneaky Obama somehow got the Congress to enact into law in 2010 and the Supreme Court to uphold in 2012--the, um, zealous representatives you voted into office have refused to approve a continuing resolution to keep the government funded--temporarily--because the POTUS and Senate "refused to negotiate" with them by agreeing to delay or defund the PPACA (Obamacare). Well done!
For your next trick, your representatives will probably remain stuck on stupid while the deadline passes for raising our nation's debt ceiling. That will be even MORE exciting! You'll get to see the country you "love" go down in flames rather than give in to the Kenyan-Marxist-commie-in-chief.
Meanwhile, ACA has proceded to open. Be sure to hide your granny and your ammo. And whatever you do: if you don't have health insurance, don't get it! Health insurance is un-American.
Hang tough, buddies. Keep listening to Rush, Doocy, Palin, Beck, Alex Jones and company and keep the faith.
And I sure hope that everyone has learned from this: the way to govern in a democratic republic is to shut it down if laws you don't like are enacted. No more of this silly "how a bill becomes a law" nineth-grade civics stuff. Got it.
So I'm sure you won't mind if the next Congress, which will likely be cleansed of Tea Party types, returns the favor and refuses to pass a CR if, oh, the wealthy don't have to pay more taxes or something.
Now THIS is how to run a country (into the dirt).
"Although health care enrollment is actually going pretty well at this point, thousands and maybe millions of Americans have failed to sign up for coverage because they believe the false horror stories they keep hearing." -- Paul Krugman
#3
Posted 05 October 2013 - 09:13 AM

Hilarious. And sad.
We are truly a nation of nincompoops.
"Although health care enrollment is actually going pretty well at this point, thousands and maybe millions of Americans have failed to sign up for coverage because they believe the false horror stories they keep hearing." -- Paul Krugman
#4
Posted 05 October 2013 - 11:13 AM
And I give equal congratulations to the non Tea Party Republicans who enabled this to happen. They are just as guilty.

#5
Posted 06 October 2013 - 03:37 PM
http://www.huffingto..._n_4053537.html
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Appearing on ABC's "This Week," host George Stephanopoulos asked Boehner, "If [Obama] continues to refuse to negotiate, the country is going to default"?
"That's the path we're on," Boehner replied. "I'm willing to sit down with the president, but his refusal to negotiate is putting our country at risk."
And that's utter b*llsh*t, of course, since the CR itself is a product of negotiations. The GOP idea of "negotiation" is nullification, as in effectively overturning the 2012 presidential election and enacting their wackadoodle agenda.
"Although health care enrollment is actually going pretty well at this point, thousands and maybe millions of Americans have failed to sign up for coverage because they believe the false horror stories they keep hearing." -- Paul Krugman
#6
Posted 06 October 2013 - 08:08 PM

#7
Posted 06 October 2013 - 08:14 PM
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Yeah...I know this would usually be the part where you ask some grandstanding question requiring an essay in response. But don't bother. Since your return to this forum I've mowed down a small handful of your DNC approved assertions, with irrefutable facts, links, and common sense.(guns and Bush tax cuts come to mind) So I know full well doing so here will result in either a change of subject, dubious reading comprehension, or the "Mystery Hour" with Dev F.


#8
Posted 07 October 2013 - 03:03 AM
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#9
Posted 07 October 2013 - 06:24 AM
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Yep. Still wondering what he thought of targeted strikes on Syria--other than he was agin' it because Obama and the Religious Left were for it.
"Although health care enrollment is actually going pretty well at this point, thousands and maybe millions of Americans have failed to sign up for coverage because they believe the false horror stories they keep hearing." -- Paul Krugman
#10
Posted 07 October 2013 - 06:33 AM
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I have a passing knowledge of how the right-wing has asserted both things.
Here: http://www.factcheck...amacare-claims/
You won't read it because it's not a Cruz-approved source on your apparent reading list, but there you go.
What you believe? It's all ideological b*llsh*t--as has been demonstrated time and time again. In fact, it's demonstrated every time you write one of your witty-in-a-wingnut-way "takedowns," which inevitably rely on strained satire and "facts" from right-wing propaganda.
But I do hope you stick around. I missed you when you slunk off after I handed your ass to you the last time.

"Although health care enrollment is actually going pretty well at this point, thousands and maybe millions of Americans have failed to sign up for coverage because they believe the false horror stories they keep hearing." -- Paul Krugman
#11
Posted 07 October 2013 - 06:36 AM
Seriously, anyone as thin-skinned as you apparently are should lay off sarcastic attacks.
"Although health care enrollment is actually going pretty well at this point, thousands and maybe millions of Americans have failed to sign up for coverage because they believe the false horror stories they keep hearing." -- Paul Krugman
#12
Posted 07 October 2013 - 06:41 AM
Yes, Obama is sitting in the White House personally ordering closed the parts of government that Tea Partiers evidently didn't know existed when they railed against it and cheered on Ted Cruz and assorted other nutcases.
It must be this way because if Obama DIDN'T do this, they'd have to deal with the notion that perhaps shutting down the government over Obamacare was not such a great idea after all.
Edited by Spectacles, 07 October 2013 - 06:41 AM.
"Although health care enrollment is actually going pretty well at this point, thousands and maybe millions of Americans have failed to sign up for coverage because they believe the false horror stories they keep hearing." -- Paul Krugman
#13
Posted 07 October 2013 - 12:54 PM
Spectacles, on 07 October 2013 - 06:24 AM, said:
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Yep. Still wondering what he thought of targeted strikes on Syria--other than he was agin' it because Obama and the Religious Left were for it.
And, I'm still waiting for his opinions on all the legislation re: women and abortion in the several states. Good thing we're not all holding our breath.

Rules for surviving an Autocracy:
Rule#1: Believe the Autocrat.
Rule#2: Do not be taken in by small signs of normality.
Rule#3: Institutions will not save you.
Rule#4: Be outraged.
Rule#5: Don't make compromises.
Rule#6: Remember the future.
Source: http://www2.nybooks....r-survival.html
#14
Posted 07 October 2013 - 03:12 PM
scherzo, on 06 October 2013 - 08:14 PM, said:
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Yeah...I know this would usually be the part where you ask some grandstanding question requiring an essay in response. But don't bother. Since your return to this forum I've mowed down a small handful of your DNC approved assertions, with irrefutable facts, links, and common sense.(guns and Bush tax cuts come to mind) So I know full well doing so here will result in either a change of subject, dubious reading comprehension, or the "Mystery Hour" with Dev F.

I actually got as far as "infidel" before I was laughing too hard to continue.


The once and future Nonny
"Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank, give a man a bank and he can rob the world." Can anyone tell me who I am quoting? I found this with no attribution.
Fatal miscarriages are forever.
Stupid is stupid, this I believe. And ignorance is the worst kind of stupid, since ignorance is a choice. Suzanne Brockmann
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#15
Posted 07 October 2013 - 03:47 PM
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Also pushing the Obamacare battle is Michael A. Needham, who runs the political arm of the conservative Heritage Foundation. Unlike Bachmann and her buddies, Needham did not play coy when asked about what is going on, telling the New York Times, “We felt very strongly from the start that this was a fight that we were going to pick.”
And it’s the fight they got. Republicans should stop feigning innocence and be brave enough to own it.
Speaking of guns and Bush tax cuts, if I ever find out who put my name on the NRA's list of prospective members, I will be happy to explain the difference between a funny joke and a lame one. OTOH the letter they sent that was meant to lure me is so inadvertently hilarious that it was almost worth the blood pressure geyser I experienced while reading it. I should scan it with my remarks and post it somewhere.


The once and future Nonny
"Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank, give a man a bank and he can rob the world." Can anyone tell me who I am quoting? I found this with no attribution.
Fatal miscarriages are forever.
Stupid is stupid, this I believe. And ignorance is the worst kind of stupid, since ignorance is a choice. Suzanne Brockmann
All things must be examined, debated, investigated without exception and without regard for anyone's feelings. Diderot
#16
Posted 07 October 2013 - 04:07 PM
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You made it farther than I did.
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The first part made me think that irony is dead. The rest reassured me.
"Although health care enrollment is actually going pretty well at this point, thousands and maybe millions of Americans have failed to sign up for coverage because they believe the false horror stories they keep hearing." -- Paul Krugman
#17
Posted 07 October 2013 - 04:51 PM
There really have been some good articles/editorials on this current CR/debt ceiling crisis.
http://nymag.com/dai...ive-bubble.html
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If you reside within the conservative news bubble, you probably had no idea before this crisis what the Democratic position on the debt ceiling and the shutdown is. You still probably have no idea now. On Fox News Sunday,George Will purported to locate an “absurdity” in Obama’s refusal to negotiate the debt ceiling. Obama, he told listeners, was arguing, “Default would be catastrophic — world-wide depression, political chaos, locusts, plagues, et cetera. But attach to the debt-ceiling construction of the Keystone pipeline, it’s better to have locusts, plagues, crisis, and war.”
That would be a crazy thing to believe, wouldn’t it? But of course Obama’s administration has a ready and oft-proffered explanation. They see the debt-ceiling fight as being mainly about the long-term question of whether Congress will cement into place the practice of using the debt ceiling to extort concessions from the president. The price of buying off a debt-ceiling hike would surely be less than the risk of a default. But doing so would enshrine debt-ceiling extortion as a normal congressional practice. This both skews the Constitutional relationship between branches — allowing an unscrupulous Congress to demand unilateral concessions at gunpoint rather than having to compromise — and creates endless brinksmanship that would eventually lead to a default.
The administration’s stance, then, is that submitting to ransom now creates the certainty of default eventually. Will is correct that paying a ransom would reduce the probability of a short-term default, but it would increase the probability of a long-term default.
I’d be interested in hearing a conservative rebuttal to this analysis, which I share. Maybe there’s an argument that it would be Constitutionally desirable to give Congress the ability to leverage unreciprocated concessions from the president by threatening global havoc, and that we can be confident that such negotiations could be undertaken regularly without any risk of failure. Unfortunately, I have not seen any argument rebutting Obama’s view, because rebutting it requires acknowledging it.
Rules for surviving an Autocracy:
Rule#1: Believe the Autocrat.
Rule#2: Do not be taken in by small signs of normality.
Rule#3: Institutions will not save you.
Rule#4: Be outraged.
Rule#5: Don't make compromises.
Rule#6: Remember the future.
Source: http://www2.nybooks....r-survival.html
#18
Posted 07 October 2013 - 06:03 PM
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1. The Second Liberty Bond Act of 1917 that establishes the debt ceiling;
2. The Federal Reserve Act that prohibits the Fed from lending directly to the Treasury; or,
3. The 14th Amendment of the Constitution that holds that the debt of the United States government, lawfully issued, will not be questioned.
They have to break a law. At the end of the day, officials will avoid violating the Constitution by indicating that they have been given inconsistent instructions and are obeying the one with the most important precedent.
Basically in Reinhart's formulation, Lew will opt to break the debt ceiling law, citing constitutional obligations to continue servicing the debt.
And then of course we enter into level never-neverland with respect to the budget.
Rules for surviving an Autocracy:
Rule#1: Believe the Autocrat.
Rule#2: Do not be taken in by small signs of normality.
Rule#3: Institutions will not save you.
Rule#4: Be outraged.
Rule#5: Don't make compromises.
Rule#6: Remember the future.
Source: http://www2.nybooks....r-survival.html
#19
Posted 08 October 2013 - 01:44 AM
This is what happens when people with way, way, way less maturity than a child, are put into power.
~ blue crystal glows, the dark side unseen, sparkles in scant light, from sun to planet, to me in between ~
I want a job in HRC's "shadow" cabinet. Good pay, really easy hours, lots of time off. Can't go wrong.
"You have a fair and valid point here. I've pointed out, numerous times, that the Left's or Democrats always cry "Racist" whenever someone disagrees with them. I failed to realize that the Right or Republicans do the same thing with "Liberal"." ~ LotS
#20
Posted 08 October 2013 - 01:54 AM
Edited by Bad Wolf, 08 October 2013 - 01:55 AM.

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