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Government Shut Down 2013 113th Congress

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#1 Spectacles

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Posted 17 October 2013 - 08:44 AM

Here is a simple timeline of the government shutdown and un-shutdown, sans partisan spin. This is a list of simply what happened:

http://abcnews.go.co...utdown-20580940

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Sept. 20: Republican-run House ignores White House veto threat, votes to keep government open through Dec. 15 but only if President Barack Obama agrees to halt money for his 2010 health care law.

Sept. 24-25: Tea party Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, and other conservatives speak on Senate floor for more than 21 consecutive hours about using shutdown bill to weaken health care law.

Sept. 27: Democratic-led Senate removes House-approved provision defunding health care law, sends bill keeping agencies open through Nov. 15 back to House.

Sept. 29: House shifts demands on health care law, votes to delay implementation for a year and repeal tax on medical devices. Separately, House votes to pay troops in case of shutdown. Senate approves bill next day, Obama signs it into law.

Sept. 30: Senate rejects latest House provisions curbing health care law. House reworks shutdown bill again, delaying for a year health care law requirement that individuals buy health insurance and requiring members of Congress and staff to pay full expense of health insurance, without government paying part of costs. Senate kills latest House health care provisions.

Oct. 1: Government's new fiscal year begins, partial federal shutdown starts, around 800,000 workers furloughed.

Oct. 2: House approves first of more than a dozen bills restarting popular programs, reopening national parks and National Institutes of Health medical research. Over the next two weeks, Democrats mostly vote "no," saying entire government must reopen, and Senate ignores the measures. Obama meets with congressional leaders at White House, no progress reported.

Oct. 4: Republicans increasingly tie shutdown fight to need for Congress to renew federal borrowing authority by Oct. 17 or risk economy-rattling government default. Their demands also evolve to deficit reduction.

Oct. 5: Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel says he is bringing most of his department's 350,000 furloughed workers back to work immediately.

Oct. 10: Boehner proposes six-week debt limit extension, conditioned on Obama bargaining over spending cuts and reopening government. House GOP leaders discuss standoff with Obama at White House without agreement. Congress gives final approval to bill providing death benefits for slain troops and Obama signs it.

Oct. 11: A bipartisan Senate group works on a measure that would reopen the government and prevent the U.S. from defaulting on its bills.

Oct. 12: Boehner tells House Republicans that negotiations with White House have stalled. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., begin talks.

Oct. 14: Reid and McConnell say they've made progress toward a deal extending debt limit and reopening government.

Oct. 15: House GOP effort to craft its own plan collapses after Boehner fails to gain enough Republican support for two alternatives that are more conservative than evolving Senate plan.

Oct. 16: Reid, McConnell announce deal on reopening government through Jan. 15, extending debt limit to Feb. 7. Congress plans votes later in day.

Interesting to just look at the bare bones of what was demanded and what happened.
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#2 cl05

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Posted 17 October 2013 - 10:16 AM

Thanks for that link. It is interesting and so much easier to see it bare bones like that.

#3 Nonny

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Posted 17 October 2013 - 12:31 PM

Oh goodie, the next showdown will be in February.  This time I was vulnerable financially, next time, like the first time, it will be my Daddy issues.  Okay, here's my plan: get my blog up and running, set up the memorial to my father and my brother, reach out to disabled and suicidal veterans, stop cowering in fear of the stupid comments I will no doubt receive, and concentrate on people of good will who will care.

That's the plan.

I had my laser procedure yesterday, it went well, I feel fine, will receive "aggressive" follow up from the surgeon and her team, so this veteran is damn glad they shut down the war memorials and NOT THE VA HOSPITALS.
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#4 sierraleone

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Posted 17 October 2013 - 04:02 PM

Unless I missed it something else I think should be on time-line:

I read that they recently changed a congress procedural rule that prevented most representatives from being able to bring a bill up for a vote. They likely had enough votes for passing a clean continuing resolution, but since only one guy was allowed to put it to a vote, and they choose not to, it didn't go to a vote to test that.

Here is a Huffington Post article on it (I've read about it elsewhere too, but don't have time to go digger for another source)

http://www.huffingto..._n_4095129.html

I think it was Sep 30th, or close to there, that it happened.
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#5 Balderdash

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Posted 17 October 2013 - 05:52 PM

View Postsierraleone, on 17 October 2013 - 04:02 PM, said:

Unless I missed it something else I think should be on time-line:

I read that they recently changed a congress procedural rule that prevented most representatives from being able to bring a bill up for a vote. They likely had enough votes for passing a clean continuing resolution, but since only one guy was allowed to put it to a vote, and they choose not to, it didn't go to a vote to test that.

Here is a Huffington Post article on it (I've read about it elsewhere too, but don't have time to go digger for another source)

http://www.huffingto..._n_4095129.html

I think it was Sep 30th, or close to there, that it happened.

Oh yeah, that is just downright sneaky and dishonest.

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