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#1 Sci-Fi Girl

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Posted 07 August 2015 - 03:15 PM

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Four abandons the ship to embark on a reckless mission to reclaim his past and the crew are left wondering whether they should rescue him or let fate run its deadly course.


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Posted 07 August 2015 - 03:23 PM

I just realized there are only five episodes left of Dark Matter this summer!  :eek:  I may panic when it ends!  :freakoutnonny:

Unless it gets renewed.  :D  In which case I will do a happy dance, and then panic because I have to wait a year!   :o :timewarp:

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Posted 07 August 2015 - 07:43 PM

Heh. You really like this show.  :lol:

I hope it gets renewed, too.  It's hard to tell.  I couldn't find a lot of ratings information, but it seemed to start out lower than other Sciffy shows, like Dominion, Defiance, and Z Nation.  Hopefully it's picked up viewers along the way.
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Posted 10 August 2015 - 01:15 AM

Another good episode for Dark Matter, though it was very similar to the last episode. Both Four and Six go on personal quests of revenge that they don't tell the crew about because they don't want to involve them but the crew finds out anyways and goes to rescue them. Considering it was Four who went along to help Six last episode you'd think he would know better.

Despite this being a Four dominated episode, One's arc was moved along nicely. Now since he knows why he's on the ship and that Three killed his wife he's basically a powder keg, and he did go off. I can understand his point of view, as well as Two's. One wants to avenge his wife even though he can't remember her and his dislike of Three now feels totally justified. Two though makes a good point that they can use this as a way to start fresh and that there's no point in killing Three for something he may have done to someone that One can't remember whatsoever.

One did seem to come to a decision though as he could have killed Three or let Three be killed, but he saved him.

I liked the Four plot even though it didn't really reveal anything new about him. I was confused if he was actually getting his memory back or not when he had those flashbacks. You'd think him getting any memory back would be a big deal and something the show would highlight.

So did not see Four killing his mentor. It makes sense though. His mentor, despite saying that he owes Four his life, said he would bring Four in the next time they ran in to each other. Plus, killing his mentor shows his brother and step-mother he means business.

I wonder why Four never tried to regain his throne before the memory wipe. I guess he could have but this episode made it seem as if this was the first time Four had made any move on the Ishida clan.

It seems like Four's brother has no clue that his mother was responsible for the emperor's death.

Five and Six have a cute relationship. Five has really latched on to Six as a friend, especially after Two murdered all those men in the casino. I'm glad they patched things up after Six told Five that she didn't belong to the crew and that she needed to be as far away from them as possible.

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Unless it gets renewed.  :D  In which case I will do a happy dance, and then panic because I have to wait a year!   :o :timewarp:

I hope it gets renewed as well. It's too good of a show not to get renewed, even though good shows get cancelled all the time. The writers have a five year plan for the show and I would love to see them bring it to fruition, as long as it doesn't turn into another Andromeda.
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Posted 10 August 2015 - 03:21 PM

Apparently Killjoys and Dark Matter are getting really strong ratings on Space (though that may not mean much, because it's a Canadian channel).
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Posted 10 August 2015 - 04:21 PM

That still likely means it will be brought back to SyFy if it Space renews them.

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 06:14 PM

Good to hear.  This is a really good show.

I am now completely convinced that Three either did not kill One's wife, or that she was the bad guy and needed killing. Dude cries reading Charlotte's Web.  He's gotta be okay.  That and the game scene and Six's conversation with Five made this a really good episode.  As did One's coming clean with Two.  But Two is still hiding something.

And, man, Four is ruthless.  But he now seems to have accepted this group as his new family.
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Posted 12 August 2015 - 07:35 AM

I didn't see this until Monday night, because I was at the Shore Leave convention over the weekend. It was weird to watch Roger Cross on TV when I was actually talking to him face-to-face just the day before. (He doesn't seem quite as tall and imposing in person. But he's much closer to Six in personality than to some of his other roles.) Anyway, this episode made it clear that he's the best actor in the cast.

The stuff on the ship worked pretty well for me, but the flashbacks totally didn't. The way the scenes were directed and edited, it looked like Four was having those memories (particularly in the second, where the camera was on him just before and after the flashback), but he can't. Are we supposed to believe that Akita -- who apparently didn't know about Four's memory loss -- was just sitting there doing an extended "As you know, Bob" riff and narrating these memories to Four? Or were we just being given a glimpse into a supporting character's memories that the main character remained unaware of, which would've just been narratively awkward as hell? The flashback format just made no sense in the context of this particular show. Maybe we're supposed to think that Five sat down with him and told him all these memories in great detail? But doesn't that sort of squander the whole premise of the show?

Heck, it would've made the subplot more interesting if Four's loss of memory had actually been used -- say, he doesn't remember what Akita's talking about, but he has to pretend he does and avoid getting caught in a mistake. Or something about Akita's behavior puzzles him because he doesn't remember, and he doesn't know for sure what side Akita's really on. Instead, we got a plot that just ignored the whole memory-loss angle and didn't feel like it belonged in this series at all.

I still don't like this whole feudal-Japanese-empire-in-space thing. Without some kind of backstory to justify why this empire exists and is so committed to historical playacting and low technology (seriously, needle and thread for a suture, when they have nanotech and hyperspace engines?), it just seems silly and forced, a non sequitur tacked onto a futuristic universe. I can't care about Four's plight or his family conflicts when the whole scenario feels like nothing more than a lazy stereotype -- worse, a racist stereotype that Japanese people in the future are violent, sword-swinging throwbacks making one-note speeches about honor. I mean, for pity's sake, the Japanese weren't even like that in the real samurai era. That whole mythology of honorable swordsmen was invented retroactively in an era when the samurai class had become mostly bureaucrats who felt a need to romanticize their past. In reality, samurai fought more with bows and arrows than swords, because you don't have to risk your own life to shoot at someone from a distance.

Sure, of course, given that the Ishidas are a royal family, you could claim that they're doing the same thing, clinging to a romanticized myth of a past that never existed. But as long as we're not getting any evidence that the larger culture is not like this idiotic stereotype, as long as this is the only side of that culture we get to see, it's just a very, very bad idea, the worst, most cliched, most gratuitous part of this show's generally weak worldbuilding -- in contrast to Killjoys, whose intricately thought-out setting is one of its strongest features.

And apparently the Space Samurai aren't the only ones lacking in futuristic technology. Those random bandits in the woods had a very 20th-century shotgun. Indeed, everyone seemed to be still using gunpowder-based projectile weapons. Which is a conceit that seems to be used in a lot of sci-fi these days, I guess because ray guns are seen as dated. It did seem they were animating blips of light onto the gun barrels, not quite your normal muzzle flashes, but the gunshot sound effects were just standard "bang" sounds. Still, I tend to think that futuristic projectile weapons would use something like miniature linear accelerators to fire bullets. That's just a matter of the user's health, since guns are very, very loud and can cause hearing damage in enclosed spaces, like spaceships or station corridors. Developing quieter firearms would be pretty much a necessity.

(Didn't Firefly actually have something like this? They used bullets, but the gun sound effect was more muffled and future-ish than a plain old "bang"?)

I'm just frustrated that we have so little context for any of this. We don't even know how far in the future the show is set. The contrast of high and low technologies is something that could make sense in any number of possible futures -- say, an Asimovian far future where civilizations have fallen and risen up again at varying times and paces so that the archaic coexists with the modern (although this show doesn't seem nearly that far ahead). But the show has revealed virtually nothing about the larger galaxy or its history, offered no context or explanation for the world we're being shown, so it all feels random and arbitrary, just a hodgepodge of tropes without anything to unify them or make them feel like they belong together in the same universe.
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Posted 12 August 2015 - 04:45 PM

Yeah, the Principality of Zeon Zairon is clearly a civilization of historical re-enactors who've been left alone for too long.

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That still likely means it will be brought back to SyFy if it Space renews them.
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Posted 12 August 2015 - 05:14 PM

I would think that scenario happens if SyFy co-funded a series.  Is this the case with DARK MATTER and KILLJOYS?

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Posted 12 August 2015 - 07:15 PM

I think they just licensed both from Space.
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Posted 13 August 2015 - 03:16 PM

View PostCybersnark, on 12 August 2015 - 04:45 PM, said:

Especially an expensive show like this.

In what way is this an expensive show? Most of it is bottle episodes set on the ship. Locations tend to be malls and warehouses passing for the interiors of space stations and ships. Characters tend to use present-day guns and equipment rather than anything futuristic. Prominent guest stars are rare. Both this and Killjoys have a really low-budget flavor to them.


View PostCardie, on 12 August 2015 - 07:15 PM, said:

I think they just licensed both from Space.

That's true of Dark Matter, but Killjoys is a Syfy/Space co-production. Which surprises me; I'd expected it to be the other way around, since DM is from Stargate veterans while Killjoys is from the creator of Lost Girl.

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Posted 28 August 2015 - 04:52 PM

Wow, I never reviewed this episode!  :freakoutnonny:  I have some scattered notes, but I never finish writing it.  I'll see what I can make of my notes.

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So, there was a great amount of backstory, and some awesome fight scenes.  And yes, in retrospect, I do see the problems that Christopher mentioned with the flashbacks.  (And I have a few comments to some of the other issues that have been brought up in this thread.  I'll try to write a response later, but that will be separate from my review. :) )  But those issues did not hamper my enjoyment of the episode!  :D  

I definitely did not expect Four to kill his mentor, that was a pretty big shock.  Though I liked how he smiled when the crew showed up get him.  He has found his true family, it seems.  :cool:

Oh yeah, and "Four eats the last of the carrots"!  :lol:   Made me think of this, LOL!   https://twitter.com/...36546084864?p=p



And all the scenes between Five and Six were absolute perfection. :happy:  That was a really nice part of the story.  

I also liked Six's realization about the General, and needing someone to be angry at besides himself.



And Three crying over Charlotte's Web!!!  Awww. :love: (Yet another clue that he grew up on a farm?  Maybe?)

Though I'm still laughing at the fact that One made him read it in the first place!  Because of course he did!  :lol:

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PS.  When oh WHEN will we be able to embed tweets?!?  Orpheus?
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Posted 28 August 2015 - 05:46 PM

View PostSci-Fi Girl, on 28 August 2015 - 04:52 PM, said:

Oh yeah, and "Four eats the last of the carrots"!  :lol:   Made me think of this, LOL!   https://twitter.com/...36546084864?p=p
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And Three crying over Charlotte's Web!!!  Awww. :love: (Yet another clue that he grew up on a farm?  Maybe?)

Though I'm still laughing at the fact that One made him read it in the first place!  Because of course he did!  :lol:  
That was so bizarre, and so cool.
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