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#41 sierraleone

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Posted 04 November 2016 - 05:16 PM

The women interviewed here is mesmerizing.

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Posted 06 November 2016 - 06:36 PM

I attended an event/March in Toronto yesterday, it was a moving experience.

Here is a CBC article on it:
http://www.cbc.ca/ne...ronto-1.3838585
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Posted 07 November 2016 - 07:25 PM

I think it was in Sep, but I only came across a picture recently - they had arrive at their camp a delegation from the Saami people (formerly known by outsiders as Laplanders, from northern Scandinavia).

https://scontent-yyz...fg=eyJpIjoidCJ9
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Posted 09 November 2016 - 06:24 PM

I am glad I didn't share the tentatively hopeful update that it sounded like there would be a pause in construction for 30-60 days. That has come back from the Army Corps as "mis-communication" or something.

It is now sounding like Trans Partners are planning on disregarding the pulled easement, they are less than a week away from being able to drill and are moving drilling equipment to the area.


I knew that the anti-DAPL fight would be a tough fight against our institutions whether Obama or Clinton was President. With Trump elected President I expect the fight to be down-right grim. (Though it has surely already been so, and is, for all those on the front-lines). Donald Trump has shares or investments in DAPL and suggesting eliminating the EPA and such.

I tried to talk to someone I knew about DAPL and was disheartened by their response, which started with "well, the pipeline has got to be built somewhere" (ok, somewhere to start talking about the issue, so I didn't lose heart then), and after plenty of info and context culminated with "well, the natives  should just get over it". Perhaps there is the good-hearted person I thought I knew buried under there under years of cultural-dogma, or perhaps I never knew them in the first place.

I think that person is one of several reasons I felt compelled to travel by train (no car) and go to the Standing Rock solidarity march. And I would do it again. People standing up and for decency and humanity in solidarity. Some might say progressive people, but I don't know when wanting clean water became a progressive thing.

I think we need to realize we all need to pull together and support each other. I think this election has made that clearer than ever, that that is the only way we'll come through this stronger, regardless of the fights we win or lose.

I would suggest that if you care about one or more of the layered issues in this anti-DAPL movement to attend one of their events if you can, or find other ways to support this and other important issues. Even if we don't win many fights, the connections such solidarity and support make will be important to movement on these issues in the future. And I imagine after such an acrimonious election, participating in such an event will feel uplifting, just like it did for me after a disappointing disheartening moment with a friend.


Events next Tuesday:
https://actionnetwor...mark&country=US

And if you are unable to participate in any of the above here is a list of 10 other ways to help the water protectors:
http://thefreethough...ccess-pipeline/
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Rule#2: Do not be taken in by small signs of normality.
Rule#3: Institutions will not save you.
Rule#4: Be outraged.
Rule#5: Don't make compromises.
Rule#6: Remember the future.
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Posted 10 November 2016 - 02:00 AM

^Another excellent post! Thank you for all you're doing.

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Posted 11 November 2016 - 02:53 PM

^ Thank you all for reading and basically not making this a private journal :D

Because I love maps:

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Posted 11 November 2016 - 05:09 PM

I appreciate your posting this. I'm usually too choked up to post, but I read and am horrified.

edited to add: and I love maps too.  :hugs:

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Posted 12 November 2016 - 10:48 AM

A couple pieces of environmental news not directly related to DAPL:

A group of kids are suing the U.S. Federal Government regarding inactivity on climate change and they have won their first battle.
http://time.com/4567...climate-change/

In 2014 New Zealand granted legal person-hood to a forest, Te Urewera, to resolve a dispute over who owns it. Recently New Zealand has proposed the same with New Zealand's 3rd longest river, Whanganui. People can bring cases to court on behalf of these entities. I am all for it, if we can grant non-living things like Corporations personhood, but all means we should be doing so for the living breathing, human supporting, earth.
http://www.abc.net.a...itizens/7816456

Here is a Facebook video about it:
https://www.facebook...hc_ref=NEWSFEED

And since that story has themes that overlap with the First Nations/American indigenous beliefs described in a book I'm reading, I am going to do a book recommendation too! :)

I am reading:
Where the Lightning Strikes
The Lives of American Indian Sacred Places
by Peter Nabokov

Edited by sierraleone, 13 November 2016 - 08:48 PM.

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Rule#2: Do not be taken in by small signs of normality.
Rule#3: Institutions will not save you.
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Rule#6: Remember the future.
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Posted 12 November 2016 - 04:05 PM

I wasn't sure I had included this before, and glancing back over my post it appears I am correct.

Last week a whole bunch of diverse clergy went to the state capitol buildings and held a peaceful demonstration, praying and saying/singing religious things. There were clergy arrested.

http://news.prairiep...t-standing-rock

There were also over 500 clergy at Standing Rock, and they denounced the Doctrine of Discovery and the 500 years of abuse on indigenous done or supported by religious authorities.

http://thefreethough...ative-genocide/

Edited by sierraleone, 12 November 2016 - 04:08 PM.

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Rule#6: Remember the future.
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Posted 15 November 2016 - 07:46 PM

Friday a "leak" from the Obama administration stated they were going to be approving DAPL soon. Uproar, and the administration took it back/said that was not correct a couple hours later. Things I have read say often those in power will do a trial leak to see what the reaction is.

Yesterday the Obama administration said they had finished their review of their decision and wanted more consultation with the tribes. Then Energy Transfers Partners (ETP) filed papers that night in U.S. district court in D.C. " seeking declaratory relief to "end the Administration's political interference in the Dakota Access Pipeline review process." They noted that the delays have already cost them more than $100 million."

So the 300 DAPL nation wide protests were today. I don't have cable, so I don't know what the cable tv news coverage was like.

There is a WashingtonPost article titled The Latest: ND gov. criticizes delay in oil pipeline. So I guess I know which angle they care about. They spent four sentences on Standing Rock's position, and nothing about the desecration the company has already done, or the mistreatment of the protestors by authorities, though they covered todays protests.

The quote I italicized above is from a Reuters article. It is not too bad, though it also neglected to cover the things the Washington Post did. Reuters also put the word "dispossessed" in quotation marks, as if it is a misnomer that the indigenous have been dispossessed of their land. Still better than the WashingtonPost article. I mentioned before that Trump is invested in DAPL. Well, Energy Transfer's CEO Kelcy Warren, is invested in Trump! He donated more than $100,000 to Trump's campaign. Unless Obama decides against it before Jan 20, and Trump honours this decision after Jan 20, I don't see this ending well. And I don't see both of those happening.

This CBC article focused more on Trans Energy, but it does have a recent quote from Kelcy Warren & ETP. Basically legalism, that the law is on their side.

Bernie was at the Washington DC rally. I saw a live Facebook feed of that rally.

CNN's article from early today, which I had to search for, it is not on the home page. No mention of today's nationwide protest planned.

Some satire:

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A council of Native American leaders has offered partial amnesty to the estimated 220 million illegal white immigrants living in the United States.
http://theindigenous...umented-whites/

Edited by sierraleone, 15 November 2016 - 11:20 PM.

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Rule#6: Remember the future.
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Posted 16 November 2016 - 07:36 PM

This gives me hope. At least until Trump is sworn in. Obama apparently has been working on cleaning up other disputes over land management with Native American tribes and has recently cancelled oil and gas exploration leases on sacred land in ND neighbouring state MT.

https://www.rt.com/u...servation-dapl/
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Rule#5: Don't make compromises.
Rule#6: Remember the future.
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Posted 21 November 2016 - 07:52 AM

There was a confrontation between police and water protectors yesterday. This was after dark, and the authorities used rubber bullets, water cannons on peaceful unarmed protestors in freezing temp (26F, -3C), as well as tear gas/mace in an enclosed space (a bridge) forcing them to endear tear gas or TRAMPLE each other to get away from it. They have protected each other and no one has been trampled to my understanding, however people are puking and peeing themselves, while unable to see, due to the tear gas/mace, and being forced to continually breath this fraught air.

Sound cannons and concussion/compression(?) grenades were used also. The authorities may say today that the protestors were starting fires but it actually look like, from the videos, that some kind of item (flares?) were coming in from the air from the other side. ND is in a drought so it is really easy to start wild fires. Every instance of fires starting from these things flying thru the air that I saw water protectors move towards it to put fires out. And there never appears to be water cannons pointed at fires.

Reuters has a good article documenting the chaos and different narratives from both sides:

https://www.rt.com/u...bridge-teargas/

ETA: Regarding the flying objects that smouldered on the ground. It sounds as if it is possible it came from some protectors. I had wonder about them prior, they didn't go in regular straight lines (or parabolic arches). Then I read somewhere else that protectors were sling-shoting little pieces of smouldering wood. Depend on how they were thrown maybe that could account for their trajectories? Then I read another place protectors were doing that so that protectors who were wet and freezing cold could use them to warm up. I really have no idea what is true or not regarding the smouldering objects launched and falling from the sky.

Edited by sierraleone, 21 November 2016 - 05:26 PM.

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Rule#4: Be outraged.
Rule#5: Don't make compromises.
Rule#6: Remember the future.
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Posted 21 November 2016 - 08:46 AM

Here is a Reuters article on the over a dozen dozen injured last night - not from being trampled, it would seem overwhelmingly from police actions.

https://www.rt.com/u...police-injured/

Edited by sierraleone, 21 November 2016 - 08:47 AM.

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Rule#1: Believe the Autocrat.
Rule#2: Do not be taken in by small signs of normality.
Rule#3: Institutions will not save you.
Rule#4: Be outraged.
Rule#5: Don't make compromises.
Rule#6: Remember the future.
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Posted 21 November 2016 - 11:11 AM

Thanks for keeping us updated, sierraleone. Between you and and FB I have an idea of how terrible it is there, but I can't bring myself anymore to watch conventional news or the political shows. So, many thanks.

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Posted 21 November 2016 - 10:15 PM

^ I just can't look away anymore. Ignoring it would feel like complicity.

Sunoco, which has one of the worst safety track-records when it comes to oil and gas pipelines, which was invested in DAPL, has announced a merger with (the bigger) Energy Transfers Partners (ETP), which is behind DAPL. The CEO, Kelcy Warren, of ETP will be the CEO of the newly merged entity. Apparently people are related this announcement as a sign of things to come, and as a sign of energy and enthusiasm in the industry with the new incoming administration.

http://www.motherjon...p-sunoco-merger
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Rule#3: Institutions will not save you.
Rule#4: Be outraged.
Rule#5: Don't make compromises.
Rule#6: Remember the future.
- Masha Gessen
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Posted 26 November 2016 - 09:46 AM

I didn't touch upon the water protestor Sophia Wilansky injuries before because there are a lot of conflicting narratives, and I wouldn't be surprised at bad apples, or plants, among the people at the camps. Sophia's injuries are severe, she may loose her hand and/or arm.

What does seem to be agreed on is that it was in the early hours of Monday morning (Nov 21), and there were only a couple dozen protestors left still out there. So not a lot of witness on either side. I remember being resistant to aspects of each narrative before because I assumed one thing or another.

Ex: if the police were using things that could cause this severe of an injury, even if it only did so when within a foot of a person, I had wonder how the heck more people weren't hurt, did they only use it once? So knowing the crowds were gone, and the fact that it was at the end of the conflict, that the police may have used weapons they hadn't used in the previous 6+ hours, could explain it.

So, the protector's narrative:
Sophia and another water protector were being belted with rubber bullets close to a vehicle. She decided to retreat and as she was hit with the weapon that blew her arm off soon afterwards. You can see the interview TYT politics did with the other water protector here, for his full story:


I can't remember if it is in this video, but I also read that water protectors claim to have found less-than-lethal grenades that appear to have been tampered with in a way that would make them more dangerous (using tape to keep the top on or something). I really don't know enough about these weapons to give credit to this theory. I had also wonder at one point prior to reading that if possible the police are telling the truth, but they had a defective less-than-lethal weapon that made it more dangerous.

Police's narrative:
They were not using any weapons that could cause injuries like this.
They say they think protestors were jiggering explosives with regular/common camping little propane tanks commonly used for camping cookstoves. (which I imagine are all over such a large campground). As well as other improvised explosive devices. They say they have evidence of this.
Their police statement of what they witnessed what they thought of as suspicious behaviour (I read at least 2 versions of what that means, one involves people around &/or under a vehicle), then an explosion, and then protestors rush away carrying a woman.

This will undoubtedly be investigated as a possible crime. And even I don't feel 100% confident in saying which side is telling the truth, at least on how Sophia got hurt.

Edited by sierraleone, 26 November 2016 - 09:56 AM.

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Rule#1: Believe the Autocrat.
Rule#2: Do not be taken in by small signs of normality.
Rule#3: Institutions will not save you.
Rule#4: Be outraged.
Rule#5: Don't make compromises.
Rule#6: Remember the future.
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Source: http://www2.nybooks....r-survival.html

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 10:11 AM

Native Americans/First Nations understandably have different feelings on Thanksgiving than most Americans do.

The water protectors did another action on Thanksgiving.

In post # 37 there was a story where, on Nov 2, the water protectors were, after the road had been blocked off, trying to cross a small river with a home-made bridge, and then by swimming, to get to base of the hill were their are grave sites. They were repelled by police with tear gas/maze.

On Thanksgiving they crossed the river to the base of that hill without police presence. The police came later, but the police largely stayed at the top of the hill, and were saying they didn't want a conflict that day. The police were spraying water, but it didn't hit people. Some speculate they were trying to make the side of the tall/steep hill slippery and wet so that people would be less likely climb the hill.

Yesterday the police put up a sharp wire fence at the base of that hill.

Edited by sierraleone, 26 November 2016 - 10:31 AM.

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Rule#1: Believe the Autocrat.
Rule#2: Do not be taken in by small signs of normality.
Rule#3: Institutions will not save you.
Rule#4: Be outraged.
Rule#5: Don't make compromises.
Rule#6: Remember the future.
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Posted 26 November 2016 - 10:24 AM

The Army Corps of Engineer land (of which some is probably reservation/treaty land), is where many of the people are camped.

I think (and I could be wrong) that it is also consider Federal Public land, which is one of the reasons why the water protector camps on Army Corp land have not been forced out under one guise or another.

Apparently this weeks events gave them, in their view, a ready and easily defendable guise under which they could expel the water protectors.

Reuters: "Army Corps will close anti-DAPL protest camp at Standing Rock by Dec. 5"

Apparently this weeks events gave them, in their view, a ready and easily defendable guise under which they could expel the water protectors.

That coincides with dates (Dec 4-7) where a group of Army veterans are planning on being there to support the cause and water protectors. I don't know the Corps specifically planned it this way, but it would seem a great distraction, and pull of human resources, from coalescing around the Army veterans planned action. Even if people don't resist this expulsion then they will be busy with moving all their stuff. If they resist that will become the focus of events.

ETA: If you'd like to know the lay of the land a bit better, here is a satellite picture of the area, with Sacred Stone Camp (safe), Oceti Sakowin Camp (possible unsafe due to Army Corp saying they will close that land Dec 5), and the DAPL drill pad (where they will drill under the river).

They don't mark action sites.
You can probably figure out yourself where other big actions have occurred, they would be north of Oceti Sakowin Camp, along the road, either at the bridge crossing, or in the likely path of DAPL.
As for the sacred burial sites at the top of a hill above a river, It isn't marked on there, but if you want to find it find the "mp" in Oceti Sakowin Camp, and look just above it to where two rivers meet. Were the land/river makes a yin-yang sign of sorts, it the bottom of the yin-yang, a sorta-peninsula on the opposite side of the rivers from both camps.

Edited by sierraleone, 27 November 2016 - 07:58 PM.

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Rule#1: Believe the Autocrat.
Rule#2: Do not be taken in by small signs of normality.
Rule#3: Institutions will not save you.
Rule#4: Be outraged.
Rule#5: Don't make compromises.
Rule#6: Remember the future.
- Masha Gessen
Source: http://www2.nybooks....r-survival.html

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 08:10 PM

Ok, yes, another post today ;)

I don't think I commented on it, but DAPL and the Army Corp's position is that they tried to consult with the Tribes and were either ignored or rebuffed. I wasn't going to read and understand the many many pages of court filings there were to actually understand the nuances and that issues inside and out.

And even if the Tribes hadn't been as engaged in the consultation process, it wouldn't be surprising. The authorities didn't want *permission* or *consent* from the Tribes (sovereign nations preceding the founding of America), the authorities just wanted to dot their i's and cross their t's showing that they *consulted* with the tribes. The word "consult" has no teeth, the way authorities use it it might as well mean inform.

The law, and/or its enforcers, has so rarely protected Native American needs and interests that when American authorities tell Native Americans to follow the law they might as well say roll over and play dead. And do so willingly for we'll force you.

Anyways, due to the on-going perception/misinformation that they never co-operated with the Army Corp or DAPL, the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe has released audio from a Sep 30th 2014 meeting with DAPL:

Edited by sierraleone, 26 November 2016 - 08:11 PM.

Rules for surviving an Autocracy:

Rule#1: Believe the Autocrat.
Rule#2: Do not be taken in by small signs of normality.
Rule#3: Institutions will not save you.
Rule#4: Be outraged.
Rule#5: Don't make compromises.
Rule#6: Remember the future.
- Masha Gessen
Source: http://www2.nybooks....r-survival.html

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Posted 27 November 2016 - 11:51 AM

Wow. A group of 6 Maori (people indigenous to Aotearoa / New Zealand) are at Standing Rock since last Sunday.

Here is a link with a short article and two videos at the end:

http://www.whitewolf...ities-with.html

Edited by sierraleone, 27 November 2016 - 11:57 AM.

Rules for surviving an Autocracy:

Rule#1: Believe the Autocrat.
Rule#2: Do not be taken in by small signs of normality.
Rule#3: Institutions will not save you.
Rule#4: Be outraged.
Rule#5: Don't make compromises.
Rule#6: Remember the future.
- Masha Gessen
Source: http://www2.nybooks....r-survival.html



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