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#1 sierraleone

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Posted 16 November 2016 - 06:39 PM

With the Republicans occupying the White House, the majority of the congress, senate, state governorships and houses too, plus possibly the USSC in the next 4 years…. Well, we are going to get to see what kind of policies they are going to easily push through. And we are probably going to see state houses copy each other a lot more. They may think that by the time it gets up to the USSC they may have a chance to win now.

I came across an article today that says that the Texas government is already drawing up different bills to do 3 things:

1. Require women to cremate or bury the remains of a fetus following a miscarriage or abortion.
This has already passed in Mike Pence's state when he was a Governor, signed in March of this year, but which has been blocked by a Judge from going into effect. Other states have passed or written up such bills as well.

2. Require women that discover any severe fetal anomaly after 20 weeks of gestation to carry the pregnancy to term, including fetal defects that are life threatening.

3. Prevent and/or strip away LGBTQ rights recognized at the municipal level. It will not allow cities to create, or continue, laws they have enacted for their city, that prevents discrimination against people for being LGBTQ. This has been enacted in at least one other state, I remember hearing about it last year.


It would appear that Compassionate Conservatives are an endangered species.

Edited by sierraleone, 16 November 2016 - 07:53 PM.

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Posted 17 November 2016 - 07:06 AM

View Postsierraleone, on 16 November 2016 - 06:39 PM, said:

With the Republicans occupying the White House, the majority of the congress, senate, state governorships and houses too, plus possibly the USSC in the next 4 years…. Well, we are going to get to see what kind of policies they are going to easily push through. And we are probably going to see state houses copy each other a lot more. They may think that by the time it gets up to the USSC they may have a chance to win now.

I came across an article today that says that the Texas government is already drawing up different bills to do 3 things:

1. Require women to cremate or bury the remains of a fetus following a miscarriage or abortion.
This has already passed in Mike Pence's state when he was a Governor, signed in March of this year, but which has been blocked by a Judge from going into effect. Other states have passed or written up such bills as well.

2. Require women that discover any severe fetal anomaly after 20 weeks of gestation to carry the pregnancy to term, including fetal defects that are life threatening.

3. Prevent and/or strip away LGBTQ rights recognized at the municipal level. It will not allow cities to create, or continue, laws they have enacted for their city, that prevents discrimination against people for being LGBTQ. This has been enacted in at least one other state, I remember hearing about it last year.


It would appear that Compassionate Conservatives are an endangered species.

This has nothing whatever to do with Conservatism. I am a Conservative. These people are small "f" fascists.

Someone posted the list of Republican aims from the 1960's a while back, and they are nothing like today's "Conservative" agenda.

That's why I posted the official "conservative values" from the Conservative website that speaks for the Republicans, and pointed out that they constitute a manifesto, and have nothing whatever to do with real Conservative values.

Here is a sampling of manifestations of real Conservative values: small mom & pop businesses, a social concern for the well-being of others, suspicion of the aims of any religion, resistance to mergers and the formation of large corporations, resistance to the stratification by age and demographic of society, small government, fiscal restraint, minimal government interference in both business and society except where warranted, vigilance where bigotry and social exclusion is concerned, resistance to socially disruptive groups and organisations, and so on. No coded language, no hidden agenda, no scripting, no nothing to be read into it.

People like the talking heads on CNN, who allegedly speak for Trump and/or the Republican party, are not conservatives. They're not even in the same ball-park. They're small "f" fascists who spew talking points because they believe the ends justify the means. They lie through their teeth because in doing so, they're playing games, trying to suck the so-called "Left" into playing their game. They believe, 100%, that their way is the only way, and that they're on a mission to stop the Left from doing anything. It's right there in their little fascist manifesto: "Liberal is a weakness", or some such nonsense, the upshot being that Liberal-minded people are somehow immoral or defective.

You can not have a meaningful dialogue with these swine until you can force them to acknowledge the other side of the aisle as being part of the Human Condition.

When any of these swine talk, what they're really saying to the non-fascist audience is, "You are not legitimate. You are not legitimate. You are not legitimate."

As such, it's an insult to any thinking person's intelligence that they be given air-time to spew their b.s.

Edited by gsmonks, 17 November 2016 - 07:07 AM.

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Posted 20 November 2016 - 09:14 PM

I missed this in June. New Gingrich, Former House Speaker, said America basically should, in the present-day, set something up like the red-scare-era Un-American Activities Committee. WTH. Why do they keep digging into the most shameful parts of American's past, acting like they are things we should copy (like profiling and interning the Japanese during WW2, now the Un-American Activites Committee), while saying things like "Make America Great Again".

Yeah, nothing too concerning here. :smirk:
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Posted 20 November 2016 - 09:32 PM

Maybe they will investigate Trump's deep ties with the Russians.

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Posted 20 November 2016 - 09:47 PM

View Post3C273, on 20 November 2016 - 09:32 PM, said:

Maybe they will investigate Trump's deep ties with the Russians.

If they were really patriots caring about America, they would. But all they care about is getting reelected, getting on a plum committee. They'll save their investigations for when a Democrat gets in there. GOP...partisan witch hunts are us.

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Posted 21 November 2016 - 12:32 PM

View Postsierraleone, on 20 November 2016 - 09:14 PM, said:

I missed this in June. New Gingrich, Former House Speaker, said America basically should, in the present-day, set something up like the red-scare-era Un-American Activities Committee. WTH. Why do they keep digging into the most shameful parts of American's past, acting like they are things we should copy (like profiling and interning the Japanese during WW2, now the Un-American Activites Committee), while saying things like "Make America Great Again".

Yeah, nothing too concerning here. :smirk:

What Gingrich was talking about was straight out of Leo Strauss' play book.

I've posted many times about Leo Strauss. Guess I'm going to have to keep at it until you guys remember it.

Leo Strauss is the most evil man in US history. He is/was the father of the Neo-Con movement.

He was all about lying to and creating fear in the minds of the American public. In point of fact, he invented the practise.

Some notable Straussians today are: Chicken Little, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Bill Kristols Jr and Sr, Newt Gingrich, and all the Neo-Cons in the US government, past and present. Other notables are: Tony Blairk, former PM of Britain, and many Quebec, Canada pequist politicians.

This is just the tip of the iceberg. For an in-depth look at the insidious evil Strauss unleashed, watch the BBC documentary, Baby It's Cold Outside:


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Posted 21 November 2016 - 08:07 PM

Proposed legislation in Texas could basically makes it illegal for teachers/school staff to not report student's sexuality orientation and/or gender identity to the parents/guardians.

http://www.salon.com...things-to-come/

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First up, State Senator Konni Burton introduced Senate Bill 242, which LGBT advocates argue could force educators to out queer and trans students to their parents. (Burton has claimed it won’t.) The legislation was introduced in response to a policy in Fort Worth public schools that prevents teachers and faculty from disclosing a trans student’s gender identity to their families. Those guidelines were amended after pressure from Patrick.

Given that an estimated 40 percent of homeless youth identify as LGBT, this bill could be extremely harmful to students, leading many to be kicked out of their homes and communities.

Edited by sierraleone, 21 November 2016 - 08:16 PM.

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Posted 21 November 2016 - 09:06 PM

This, again, is why we should drop the "Republican" moniker and call these people what they are: Straussian Fascists.

Ana Navarro is a Republican. Kayleigh McEnany is a Straussian Fascist. Ana Navarro talks like a normal human being. Kayleigh McEnany behaves like a brainwashed Straussian zombie. Ana Navarro listens to the other person. Kayleigh McEnany doesn't listen, and during a "conversation" is only waiting to start spewing more talking points, which is something that is straight out of the Straussian playbook.

Most of the GOP surrogates that regularly appear on CNN, if not all of them, are Straussian Fascists, not Republicans. Many used to be Neo-Cons, until they were sussed out during Chicken Little's tenure. They were few in number in those days, and consisted of Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Bill Kristol Jr, Bill Kristol Sr, Chicken Little himself, as well as outsiders like Tony Blair, and many small "f" fascists in the Quebec pequist movement. If you study the pequist movement in Quebec, you study the ongoing influence of fascists like Leo Strauss.

Now they are back in far greater numbers, and seem to have hijacked the GOP.

But they are not Republicans. Not by any stretch of the imagination. You can spot one a mile away. They stick to a script, which is derived from their little manifesto, aka the official list of Conservative "values". In that little tome it says that "the media is left-leaning", "the media can't be trusted for its Liberal bias", "Liberals are morally defective", and so on.

You hear this rectal spew coming out their mouths over and over and over and over and over and over again. There is absolutely no thought going on in their pea brains, except to look for ways to insert their little talking points, at every available opportunity. It's all they do. There is nothing there to analyse.

If you see one on the television set, you know ahead of time exactly what they're going to say and do. "Liberal media bias. Liberal bad. Conservative good. Media Leftist. Media bad. Media can't be trusted. Only Conservatives tell truth. Urk. Urk. Urk."

CNN has lost all credibility, first for giving these syphilitic scabs a platform, then for controlling and creating the narrative that is Trump.

I'm far from the only person to have noticed this nonsense and is fed up with it.

https://www.google.c...W9ukQzd59AOsCZw

https://www.google.c...uvvrczq8BHXXaYw

https://www.google.c...1sqJbXUCVVZI9_w
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Posted 21 November 2016 - 10:22 PM

I should perhaps add that CNN is continuing its Trump "narrative" almost constantly, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. It wouldn't be a stretch to refer to CNN as the Trump Network, as the station has abandoned anything resembling common sense, and is fixated on a bloviating, stupid little man, and generating a false narrative about what he's "doing", "saying", "thinking", "planning".

As I said before, Trump himself admitted that his "tactics", his "strategy", his "cunning", his "planning", as being a simple matter of watching to see if the red broadcasting lights on the cameras pointed at him were on. Everything CNN, the GOP, and Trump's surrogates said, was complete and utter b.s., a fiction, a fabrication.

So Trump got to where he is right now by watching the pretty little red lights on the cameras pointed at him. No planning. No cunning. No strategy. No nothing.

Few seem able to grasp the implications. It wasn't Trump who manoeuvred his way into the White House. It was CNN, which created the false narrative that allowed it to happen.

Consider: if CNN's reporters had done their due diligence, Trump would have been sussed out as a phoney from the get-go and dismissed. But from the beginning, CNN gave Trump's words weight, even though they were completely devoid of substance. CNN had both the means and the expertise to show Trump up for the empty suit he is. Instead, they created this perverted narrative, because in doing so, their fortunes rose.

And now they're fixated on their own false narrative, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. You can't turn on CNN without seeing Trump's ugly face, or seeing his name somewhere on the screen. It's like watching the feedback-loop that is mental illness, when a person is suffering a psychotic break. And like the worst mental patients seem unable to detect their own sickness.

For my part, I'm CNN-Trumped out. If I see his ugly face, or his name, or hear his voice, I flip past the station in search of real news.
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Posted 21 November 2016 - 11:44 PM

I will never watch CNN again, unless it's on in an airport or the ER waiting room. And then I'll look away and tune it out.

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Posted 09 December 2016 - 06:16 PM

In Ohio Governor John Kasich has two abortion bills on his desk for signing.

One bans abortion after a heart beat can be detected, which basically outlaws abortion. No exception for rape or incest. A heart beat can be detected 4 weeks after conception, typically considered 6 weeks pregnant as OBGYNs go by the start of the last period. Many, perhaps even most, women who have unplanned pregnancies do not know they are pregnant within 4 weeks after conception.

One bans abortion after 20 weeks. (I am not sure the reasoning behind passing these two bills within a week or so of each other. Perhaps they expect the first one to fail?). Also has no exceptions for rape or incest, though that is unlikely to be the reason behind a late-term abortion.

It is currently banned after 24 weeks.

Kasich is pro-life with exceptions for rape and incest (and presumably for mother's life/health), so it is uncertain whether he will sign it or not (same result, in goes into effect), or veto it.

I am not too worried about abortion rights short-term in the U.S. Even if Kasich were to sign the heart-beat bill there would probably be an automatic stay on it by the courts, as it clearly goes against precedent. And even if it were to get to the Supreme Court and Scalia were to be replaced with another anti-choice Justice the current make up of the court strongly suggests that abortion would be upheld.

But states are going to be pushing this. And Trump has a decent chance of naming a second nominee, and possibly even replace a liberal-leaning justice.

Edited by sierraleone, 09 December 2016 - 06:19 PM.

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Posted 09 December 2016 - 06:33 PM

Again, when you interfere with women's reproductive health, you're an authoritarian, and authoritarian is another word for Fascist.
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Posted 09 December 2016 - 07:16 PM

Kasich also has on his desk one of those asinine bills that seems to be going around to forbid individual cities from setting their own minimum wage.

Because we can't be content to take zero action at the state level, we also have to make sure that no one *else* has the ability to make things better for anyone who's struggling, too.  Disgusting.
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Posted 10 December 2016 - 07:55 AM

Interfering with the minimum wage is an Authoritarian measure. Authoritarianism  = Fascism.

It looks like Big Business is going to experience a Reagan-era bonanza. They're already gloating, like expectant swine before the slop-trough.

Morons who vote Republican are going to gloat about how well Big Business is doing, while in typical Republican-Stoopid fashion will not be benefiting in any way, shape or form themselves.

I'll be keeping a close eye on how much fossil fuel resources these swine scarf down their mindless corporate gullets. The fossil fuel industry was in transition, leaning gradually towards conservation of a resource whose days are numbered. Like a greedy pig at the dinner table, they may very well consume the remaining resources in record time, while pulling the plug on developing alternatives. As things stand, Industrial America itself is painfully aware of what resources are left, and have been cooperating in terms of developing alternative technologies. The aim behind these technologies was to replace the fossil fuel industry as the well ran dry. These cretins don't look to be planning to the future. When the well runs dry, if there are no alternatives in place, watch out.

Edited by gsmonks, 10 December 2016 - 07:56 AM.

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Posted 10 December 2016 - 10:19 AM

Here we go. The Fascists are planning to slash Social Security payments:

"On Thursday, Rep. Sam Johnson, a Republican from Texas and chair of the Ways and Means Committee, introduced legislation to significantly cut Social Security.

The bill introduced by Johnson, who is also the chair of the Social Security subcommittee, slashes benefits, adds means testing, and would raise the retirement age from 67 to 69.

For most workers, the bill would cut Social Security benefits substantially. As Michael Linden, associate director for tax and budget policy at Center for American Progress, pointed out on Twitter, a letter from Social Security’s Office of the Actuary calculated workers making around $50,000 would see checks shrink by between 11% and 35%. "
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Posted 10 December 2016 - 10:20 AM

Of course, the people doing the slashing aren't going to be affected . . .
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Posted 10 December 2016 - 11:26 AM

View Postgsmonks, on 10 December 2016 - 10:20 AM, said:

Of course, the people doing the slashing aren't going to be affected . . .

...unless of course the slashing is enacted with pitchforks and machetes by torchlight*.


*God forbid!

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Posted 10 December 2016 - 01:40 PM

There is no Democracy in a corporate structure. Corporations are run like Feudal fiefs.

This is going to be great fun to watch. Corporate toadies running a government! Welcome to the new Feudal Age.
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Posted 14 December 2016 - 08:45 PM

View Postsierraleone, on 09 December 2016 - 06:16 PM, said:

In Ohio Governor John Kasich has two abortion bills on his desk for signing.

One bans abortion after a heart beat can be detected, which basically outlaws abortion. No exception for rape or incest. A heart beat can be detected 4 weeks after conception, typically considered 6 weeks pregnant as OBGYNs go by the start of the last period. Many, perhaps even most, women who have unplanned pregnancies do not know they are pregnant within 4 weeks after conception.

One bans abortion after 20 weeks. (I am not sure the reasoning behind passing these two bills within a week or so of each other. Perhaps they expect the first one to fail?). Also has no exceptions for rape or incest, though that is unlikely to be the reason behind a late-term abortion.

As expected, Kasich vetoed the heart-beat bill, but signed the 20 week abortion ban. The person who spear-headed the heart-beat bill is going to see if they can get the votes to override the veto.

http://www.dispatch....tion-bills.html
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Posted 14 December 2016 - 09:09 PM

I bet he'd changed his mind if every woman he encountered kicked him square in the nuts.
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