I'm assuming we're using this thread for all of the shows...if not, feel free to whooosh these comments to the right thread.
That was my intention. I figured it would be easier to discuss the cross-over this way.
The Flash portion of this episode was great, but it did feel a little rushed. I understand it would be hard to truly incorporate the Supergirl episode since it is in a different universe (Earth-38 apparently) but there still could have been a better set-up. That said, there was so much to love here.
Seeing all of the heroes gathered together like that was amazing. It was a good group to use. I liked how it allowed for a lot of interactions we don't normally see, like Stein and Caitlin and Cisco and Felicity and more great Oliver/Barry moments.
It was nice of Oliver to let Barry lead the team since he is the one who gathered the team and informed them of the threat. True, he lost all of their trust rather quickly because of the Flashpoint debacle but he gained it back by saving them all from mind control.
I loved seeing Supergirl interact with all of these heroes. She fit right in and just clicked with everyone. Her reactions to Oliver and Mick were priceless. I loved that all of the heroes couldn't do a thing to hurt her. She just hovered there, smiling, as they threw everything at her. I was afraid that they would make her easier to take down just to make the other heroes look better. Not only that, but she knew about the Dominators from her own universe.
I was a little peeved that we were getting a bunch of mind controlled heroes vs. Barry and Oliver but it worked. The entire sequence was tense, filled with some great moments, had lots of good action, and had Barry saving the day.
I understand where Iris is coming from and I also understand where Wally is coming from. Iris is worried about her brother and thinks he's a little too cocky now that he was super speed. She also knows he ends up getting killed in Flashpoint. Wally, though, is correct that he needs training in order to be a good hero and not to get hurt.
I loved that Wally did speed to the rescue even if he got taken out by Supergirl right after.
Okay, Barry owning the Hall of Justice is awesome. I so hope they use the name Justice League in one of these episodes.
Cisco's feelings, completely understandable. And, IMO, he's actually taking it easy on Barry with his feelings. Hell, Cisco even managed to shut Felicity and her counter arguments down by telling her what Barry did. She literally had no answer, which is probably a first for her character.
I agree. Cisco has every right to be upset at Barry. However, forcing Barry to tell everyone right before they face a giant threat seemed petty because all it did was divide the team and screw with everyone's head.
I also felt that Sara was hypocritical when she lectured Barry about messing with the time line. She would have killed Darkh the first time if her teammates hadn't intervened. She didn't care about any changes to the time line then. Later, she probably did change the time line when she revealed to Darkh that his plan wouldn't work and he would lose everyone he cared about.
From Dig's daughter being erased, to Martin HAVING a daughter.
Well, Martin having a daughter could be blamed on him. Remember, he told his younger self to treat their wife way better because she was the best thing that had ever happened to them. Maybe younger Stein took that to heart and became a better husband and agreed to have a child.
Biggest shock, so far, was the change in the future newspaper...it's no longer written by Iris West-Allen. So something happens either to iris, or between Barry and Iris.
That is a big shock, but it could be something as simple as Iris simply no longer works for that newspaper.
Although, while understandable, the whole training against Supergirl really wouldn't have helped...Not unless the Dominators are Kryptonian. Aliens have different powers and abilities. As the team found out when they got Jedi mind tricked.
True, the Dominators obviously have some tricks up their sleeves. However, none of the heroes have fought aliens before so going up against arguably the strongest alien on the planet would at least give them some idea about what they're facing.
Loved Thea's comment about coming out of retirement: "Well, yeah. But it's Aliens." LOL. But it paled in comparison to Felicity's: Oh how cute, you're all going to just team up and go fight Aliens. Have you lost your minds!?" LOL
I know. So many awesome lines in this episode. I'm so excited for the next part tonight.
Presumably Medusa, in its original formulation, would be deadly to humans, no? I mean, humans are aliens to Kryptonians, and this virus was to kill all non-Kryptonian life. So, in approximately a week, Cadmus figured out how to re-engineer it to be safe for humans? And figured out dispersal and everything else?
Well, they are supposed to be the best evil scientists around. I'm just chalking that up to comic book science.
Seems Mon-El is someone's enemy… or even a wanted criminal
Also, "Mon-El Daxam" really? If Daxamites don't have surnames it is just "Mon-El" or "Mon-El the Daxamite/of Daxam" if you prefer. Or do they have surnames and his last name just happens to match his planet's name? Or perhaps that is some alias?
I think they said Mon-El of Daxam, but I'm not sure honestly.
I wonder if this Virus could some how be used in the Arrow/Flash/Legends 'verse against their Alien invasion?
I was thinking the same thing.
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-- Harry S. Truman