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#1 sierraleone

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 10:14 AM

I was writing a reply regarding Obama to this post in the post-inauguration thread, and realized I didn't want to get too far into asides about the previous President in the current POTUS thread. So I started this topic.

So, what did Obama's Presidency mean to you? Did you love him, hate him, both at different times? His policies? How and why? What legislative/court/cultural accomplishments or changes do you assign him a good dose of responsibility? Did you find his use of  unilateral executive actions a good thing in and of itself? How did you feel about what his executive actions accomplish? What will you miss, AND not miss, about Obama? And, finally, what (not who) did Obama represent, to you personally?

I honestly think we will remember him more for what he represented, than what he accomplished.

He obviously represented a lot to some people even with little action to show for it. I mean a fricken Noble Peace Prize in 2009, less than a year after he was first elected to the Presidency of a country in the midst of two wars?



Myself, I found Obama a centrist and pragmatist, sometimes frustratingly so. For example he didn't use the bully pulpit even when he could (I don't think we have any worry about the new POTUS not using it...). That was 2009-2010, when the U.S. had a Democrat supermajority. 2011 & on Obama was so often stymied by Republican legislative bodies that what little liberal agenda he may have had was blocked at every turn, other than executive actions.


Trying to remember his deeds, both good and bad, and this is what I recollect relatively readily:

- The economic bail-out after the 2008 crash.
- Cash for Clunkers.
- The Affordable Care Act.
- Repeal of DADT.
- His two SCOTUS appointments (Judge Sonia Sotomayor, and Judge Elena Kagan). Should have been 3.
-- Lots of other federal judge appointments in other courts.
- Normalizing the U.S.-Cuba relationship.
- Affirming UNDRIP. (United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People. U.S. voted against in 2007).
- Paris-Agreement on Climate-change.
- Lack of consitutional due process for perceived and actual threats and traitors. More continued than started, but that is a cop-out, it was used. Now the next Administration inherits it.
- Economic: Huge increase in National Debt, lowered unemployment rates.
- Weakening the DNC.
(Largely due to their recentness:)
- Abstaining from the U.N. vote on the controversial new Israel settlements
- Commuting sentence of Chelsea Manning

With googling:
- Overhauling the Student Loan program (basically taking it away from the management by big bank Sallie Mae, which appears to have saved them money).
- Solyndra
- His response to the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico
- DACA (Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals).
- Dragging medicine and health care into the digital age
- Climate Action Plan
- Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act
- Just endeavouring to have data and evidence be central to his policy-making


Reading this long Politico article from a year ago it looks like he managed a lot of things quietly, without much fan-fare. Made me appreciate his pragmatism a bit more, getting the important "little stuff" done.

Anyways, that's it. Here is the thread to praise or complain about, or try to honestly evaluate, President Obama.

Edited by sierraleone, 21 January 2017 - 10:50 AM.

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#2 Nonny

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 12:01 PM

Obama is a good man and was agreat presidentamd yesterday, the idiot I've had to share my room in the nursing home with got all loud and GOP stupid andstarted yelling a bunch of lies at me, so I told her a few truths bout her monster, and she went ballistic. I'm pretty sure she was trying to induce another stroke on me, but guess what. Her daughter also an idiot, noticed that her mom was stroking out. And now I have  another good roommate and I'm back in recovery, no longer forced to,listen to a GOP,liar. And the sff here realized the next step and protected me. A guy came over to assure me they knew it wasn't my fault, told me shes a. If
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#3 Nonny

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 12:04 PM

And today the Obamas are once agsainn staying in Sunnylands, a classy place where I doubt that the traitor who replaced him and his porn star wife belong.
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"Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank, give a man a bank and he can rob the world." Can anyone tell me who I am quoting?  I found this with no attribution.

Fatal miscarriages are forever.

Stupid is stupid, this I believe. And ignorance is the worst kind of stupid, since ignorance is a choice.  Suzanne Brockmann

All things must be examined, debated, investigated without exception and without regard for anyone's feelings. Diderot

#4 sierraleone

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 12:07 PM

{{{{{{{{{Nonny}}}}}}}}}} Glad you got a new roommate Nonny! Have you been watching the coverage of the women's March today? I have and it has been heartwarming.
Rules for surviving an Autocracy:

Rule#1: Believe the Autocrat.
Rule#2: Do not be taken in by small signs of normality.
Rule#3: Institutions will not save you.
Rule#4: Be outraged.
Rule#5: Don't make compromises.
Rule#6: Remember the future.
- Masha Gessen
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Posted 21 January 2017 - 12:47 PM

Hi Nonny! Good to see you posting. I've missed you.



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