I am not sure at this time I have much to add that I haven't already said in the other thread.
One thing I worry, is how these will work themselves thru the court. These green card/visa/refugee status holders won a very limited victory… These decisions basically says the U.S. can't deport these persons, who where en-route to the U.S. when this decision was signed, lickity split(sp?). I assume that would automatically change their standing in a court of law if it were allowed, so these judges are essentially allowing them their day in court. But it doesn't allow them free on America soil (other institutions are making those decisions, when those detained get released). The President does have wide discretion over who comes into the U.S. Now there isn't supposed to be discrimination based on national origin, however the balance of these the government priorities, and the priorities of foreign nationals, who do not have much standing, if any, in American courts, I don't know.
One thing I want to know, from those who might be nonplussed by this, and just think the kinks need to be worked out (or just don't care about these people)…. those on the conservative side, and Trump's chants, are generally for law and order. Is this what law and order looks like? These people are not illegal immigrations, they have followed law and order and gone through all the steps to get their refugee status, get a visa and a job here, to get their green card…. We are going to pull the rug out from people being lawful and respectful of the U.S. refugee/immigration policy? Can you tell me why anyone would bother following the immigration laws in the future when they saw how those following the law got treated by the American government today? They have shown respect for the authority of the U.S. and its laws, and the U.S. spits on them. America suspects them of disloyalty to their newly adopted country while being disloyal to America's own laws and ideals.
Edited by sierraleone, 29 January 2017 - 06:18 PM.
Rules for surviving an Autocracy:
Rule#1: Believe the Autocrat.
Rule#2: Do not be taken in by small signs of normality.
Rule#3: Institutions will not save you.
Rule#4: Be outraged.
Rule#5: Don't make compromises.
Rule#6: Remember the future.
- Masha Gessen