Lord of the Sword, on 18 May 2017 - 01:23 AM, said:
yadda yadda, on 17 May 2017 - 05:23 PM, said:
Well, hallelujah! That didn't take long. Ask and ye shall receive! Deputy Atty. Gen. Rod Rosenstein has just appointed former FBI Director Robert Mueller as Special Prosecutor for investigation into Russia and our 2016 election! Have at it Bob! Give it your best shot. A shot of unvarnished truth for once. Next stop, Impeachment! All aboard!
ETA: Special Counsel, Special Prosecutor, I've heard it reported both ways. Not sure of the difference yet.
ETA again...evidently Special Counsel is what they nowadays call a Special Prosecutor. The Special Counsel reports to and is under the Deputy Atty General. I think he's independent, but as we all know if 45 can fire the FBI Director, I'd assume that the AG and DAG serve at POTUS's pleasure as well. Not sure how much insulation of true independence there is. After all, Nixon told his AG and DAG to fire his Watergate Special Prosecutor and they refused, resigning in protest instead. Then he appointed Bork, a stooge AG to fire Cox, the SP. Didn't help him in the end though...he resigned in disgrace. Deja vu time?
So if the Special Prosecutor finds wrong doing, President Trump gets impeached. That's one possible outcome.
OTOH, if the special prosecutor finds no wrong doing, no Russian collusion, the Democrats and the Fake News media is done. The Fake News networks, like CNN and MSNBC, have been pushing this alledged Russian collusion conspiracy as if it were fact. If the special prosecutor proves that wasn't the case, they will loose ALL credibilty. Same with the Democrats.
LoTS, I've been basically ignoring you for the past two or three months. Blissfully, actually. Basically because I've decided carrying on a discussion with you is a waste of time. We don't share a common language or perspective of the world of reality. Your mindset seems to me to be averse to facts in the real world. Reason, logical development of thought, and rationality appear to be concepts foreign to you. For this reason I've erected a personal message board noise wall to keep out your distractions. It has been equally effective for me to the noise walls in common use on America's and the world's roads and expressways, in neighborhoods and retail centers....you know, the ones that you stubbornly deny existence of as being impossible to construct due to the inherent physical properties of material, its placement, and the physics of sound propagation. After my reply to you here I fully expect to close the gate on my sound wall to you again, as your further thoughts carry no import for me. I'm going to pick apart your "argument" to demonstrate your skewed and faulty excuse for reasoning just for old times sake.
First off, you assert that "if the Special Prosecutor finds wrong doing, President Trump gets impeached. That's one possible outcome." Your OTOH contingency supposes, in your logic-less narrow focused binary thought process, that no wrong doing--Dems and FAKE NEWS media are done, and "loose" all credibility. By the way, it's "lose" all credibility, not "loose". To lose is to be deprived of something or someone, be misplaced or have it go missing. Or alternately as the antonym for win. "Loose" is the antonym of tight. As in some rappers wear loose fitting pants that fall down and reveal their buttocks. Or to indicate a variance from precision or established standards of reality, as in LoTS and his mentor entity FOX are loose in their presentation of factual argument or evidence. Vocabulary/grammar lesson over, free of charge.
There are many alternative possible outcomes to Special Prosector finds wrong doing than just Trump gets impeached, the only one you stipulated. Mueller could find wrong doing by Flynn, Manafort, Page, Sessions, Kushner, Pence, WH Counsel McGahn, and a host of other flunkies and stooges. He'd could find evidence of collusion by any or all of them and still report that Trump was a dupe, too stupid to participate in collusion...just a figurehead for illegality, corruption and treason. Trump could avoid impeachment that way, maybe limp on in a crippled Presidency until he resigned in utter disgrace like Nixon or hang on till his term was up like a political eunuch.
Special Counsel Mueller could find and report conclusive evidence of Trump's involvement and foreknowledge of these same crimes and Trump could still avoid impeachment and banishment from the WH if the gutless partisan Republican House members refuse to bring articles of impeachment or the Republican Senate failed to convict. That would be political party suicide, but it could happen.
But regarding your bold claim that an exoneration of Trump would be the undoing of the Dems and FAKE NEWS media, and a loss of all credibility. Loss of credibility with whom? You and your brainwashed brethren extend zero credibility in Dems or the FAKE NEWS as it is. That's why y'all have been conditioned by your Orange Messiah to call it FAKE NEWS. How can FAKE NEWS lose or loose credibility to you? You and your fellow lemmings already count it as being not credible. Your credulity has been strained, overtaxed, and ultimately fully disgusted by the FAKE NEWS. As your fearless leader said to black America, " what do you have to lose/loose?" It's all gone already.
Unless you're speaking for everyone else like me and most others on this board and out in Libtard America? You're predicting that the FAKE MEDIA in your mind is going to be less credible to us than what we consider a mostly objective reporting source we listen to with a few grains of salt and critical thinking and discernment instead of absorbing poorly dressed propaganda as if it was truth from on high like you Foxies do? Think about it if on the off chance there are still a couple or three unbrainwashed cells bouncing around in your head. Would YOU find your right wing sources that defend Trump like he was Jesus himself less credible or having lost all credibility if they were proven wrong by the Special Counsel's indictment of Trump for collusion or corruption leading to his impeachment? Would you? Or would you keep on listening to their music to your ears, that hateful heat and blame stream that keeps you warm at night like your old special security blankie from your baby days? I think we know the answer. Right-wing propaganda is like the nicotine in your cigarettes or your chaw that you can't quit. Or the caffeine in your soda pop. It will always be credible to you. Keeping you comfy and stabilized in this topsy-turvy world full of Liberal Elites harshing your mellow.
Okay, time to close up the gate again in my cyber noise wall. Do your damnedest. I can't hear you. Have a nice day.
Edited by yadda yadda, 18 May 2017 - 05:34 PM.