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#21 yadda yadda

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Posted 29 June 2017 - 02:35 AM

^ CNN retracts a story and fires three reporters for not following their proper journalistic practices. And therefore because they exercised journalistic corporate responsibility you think everything they print or broadcast is BS? Personally, I don't care much for CNN. I don't take much issue with their story's accuracy, for the most part. Yeah, they might fudge some detail, exaggerate, or misspeak on occasion. Or have a few corner cutting reporters looking to land a scoop without following strict ethical protocols. But I check my incoming information from a variety of sources, not just one outlet. I look for consensus and agreement on detail and for how many confirming sources were sought in writing a news story or article. What I don't care for about CNN is their mercenary approach to trying to affect a balance of viewpoint by hiring and having as "commentators" absolute shills for 45, his campaign surrogates who go on and lie through their teeth in their master's image. CNN thus tries to pass off this blatant propaganda as false equivalence to actually knowledgable pundits and elected officials appearing and representing reason and sanity. So I'm no real fan of CNN.

Meanwhile, your unhinged, lying, full blown narcissist president has fake flattering Time Magazine covers of himself made up in 2009 and blown up and hung on the walls in 5 of his his golf course clubhouses. He promises during the campaign that Medicaid will be untouched and everyone will have great health care much cheaper but supports and raves about GOP health care legislation that cuts 880 BILLION dollars from Medicaid for the poor, seniors, and sick children...and throws 22 million Americans off their health care. He lies like it was second nature, a reflex like breathing. But you believe HIM?

And for the last time, the three Justices who dissented on 45's Muslim ban EO dissented with the majority decision (6 other Justices) to allow a limited lifting of the appellate court stay on the EO, while mandating exemption and protection for certain classes of immigrants from the affected countries. These six Justices disagreed with the other three Justices that the Muslim ban stay by the appellate courts should not be overturned outright, but deliberated more fully at a later date. So there was no 9-0 consensus as evidently you and 45 are the only ones who advocate that particular judicial theory.

Edited by yadda yadda, 29 June 2017 - 03:25 AM.


#22 sierraleone

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 07:30 PM

I know this isn't quite SCOTUS news but I didn't want to start a new thread :)

WaPo: The one area where Trump has been wildly successful.

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Progressives breathed a sigh of relief recently when Justice Anthony M. Kennedy decided to remain on the Supreme Court for presumably at least one more year. But … a massive transformation is underway in how our fundamental rights are defined by the federal judiciary…. President Trump … is proving wildly successful in one respect: naming youthful conservative nominees to the federal bench in record-setting numbers.
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Trump is on pace to more than double the number of federal judges nominated by any president in his first year.
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Moreover, Trump’s picks are astoundingly young. Obama’s early Court of Appeals nominees averaged age 55; Trump’s nine picks average 48.
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How conservative are Trump’s picks? Dubbed “polemicists in robes” in a headline on a piece by Slate’s Dahlia Lithwick, Trump’s nominees are strikingly . . . Trumpian. One Trump nominee blogged that Kennedy was a “judicial prostitute” for trying to find a middle ground on the court, and said that he “strongly disagree[d]” with the court’s decision striking down prosecution of gay people under sodomy laws. Another equated the Supreme Court’s decision in Roe v. Wade, upholding a woman’s right to choose to have an abortion, to the court’s 19th-century Dred Scott finding that black people could not be U.S. citizens. Another advocated an Alabama law that denied counsel to death-row inmates.
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But given Trump’s unprecedented pace, in just one more year, one-eighth of all cases filed in federal court will be heard by a judge he appointed.
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​With the abolition of the filibuster …. the reality is that most of Trump’s rapid-fire, right-wing, youthful lower-court nominations are poised to make it to the bench.  
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And finally, nothing is more important than taking back the Senate in 2018. The only thing that can stop the Trump train of judicial transformation is a Senate Judiciary Committee in Democratic hands. Absent that, the next two generations of Americans will live under laws interpreted by hundreds of judges picked by the president with the greatest disdain for the rule of law in our history.

Edited by sierraleone, 21 July 2017 - 05:02 AM.

Rules for surviving an Autocracy:

Rule#1: Believe the Autocrat.
Rule#2: Do not be taken in by small signs of normality.
Rule#3: Institutions will not save you.
Rule#4: Be outraged.
Rule#5: Don't make compromises.
Rule#6: Remember the future.
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#23 Lord of the Sword

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Posted 23 July 2017 - 08:46 AM

View Postsierraleone, on 20 July 2017 - 07:30 PM, said:

I know this isn't quite SCOTUS news but I didn't want to start a new thread :)

WaPo: The one area where Trump has been wildly successful.

Quote

Progressives breathed a sigh of relief recently when Justice Anthony M. Kennedy decided to remain on the Supreme Court for presumably at least one more year. But … a massive transformation is underway in how our fundamental rights are defined by the federal judiciary…. President Trump … is proving wildly successful in one respect: naming youthful conservative nominees to the federal bench in record-setting numbers.
….
Trump is on pace to more than double the number of federal judges nominated by any president in his first year.
​….
Moreover, Trump’s picks are astoundingly young. Obama’s early Court of Appeals nominees averaged age 55; Trump’s nine picks average 48.
​….
How conservative are Trump’s picks? Dubbed “polemicists in robes” in a headline on a piece by Slate’s Dahlia Lithwick, Trump’s nominees are strikingly . . . Trumpian. One Trump nominee blogged that Kennedy was a “judicial prostitute” for trying to find a middle ground on the court, and said that he “strongly disagree[d]” with the court’s decision striking down prosecution of gay people under sodomy laws. Another equated the Supreme Court’s decision in Roe v. Wade, upholding a woman’s right to choose to have an abortion, to the court’s 19th-century Dred Scott finding that black people could not be U.S. citizens. Another advocated an Alabama law that denied counsel to death-row inmates.
….
But given Trump’s unprecedented pace, in just one more year, one-eighth of all cases filed in federal court will be heard by a judge he appointed.
​….
​With the abolition of the filibuster …. the reality is that most of Trump’s rapid-fire, right-wing, youthful lower-court nominations are poised to make it to the bench.  
….
And finally, nothing is more important than taking back the Senate in 2018. The only thing that can stop the Trump train of judicial transformation is a Senate Judiciary Committee in Democratic hands. Absent that, the next two generations of Americans will live under laws interpreted by hundreds of judges picked by the president with the greatest disdain for the rule of law in our history.


We survived, by the grace of God somehow, under Obama's liberal activist Judges. Activist Judges who, currently, seem to think that the courts decide USA foreign policy. Activist Judges who, right now, think they ARE the President. So I'm fairly sure we'll survive President Trump's conservative appointments to the federal bench.
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The last republican leaning independent on this message board. All others have been silenced and driven off, or outright banned. Only ONE remains. I guess HighLander had it right all along....In the end, there can be only ONE.

#24 Cait

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Posted 23 July 2017 - 07:55 PM

View PostLord of the Sword, on 23 July 2017 - 08:46 AM, said:


We survived, by the grace of God somehow, under Obama's liberal activist Judges. Activist Judges who, currently, seem to think that the courts decide USA foreign policy. Activist Judges who, right now, think they ARE the President. So I'm fairly sure we'll survive President Trump's conservative appointments to the federal bench.

Another false equivalency.  You act as if because you survived Obama, it is the same as the rest of us surviving #45.  It isn't by a long shot.  And the reason it isn't the same has to do with policy objectives.  Progressives seek to expand, while conservatives seek to constrict.

You can dream on that your survival means we'll all survive under #45, but you're living in a fool's paradise.  Policy matters.  It isn't something one side or the other survives.  Policy determines the world we live in.

You're part of the white, privileged male population that thinks we won't be hurt as citizens because that's just not possible in America.  You think that because you can't imagine anyone or anything that could actually undermine the power of America.  America, like your white privilege, is in your opinion, immutable and unassailable.  It simply is, what it is, and no one would or could tear it down.

You should read more history.  That's what the Roman's thought, the Greeks, The Ottoman Empire, the British Empire, and every warlord that ever walked the planet.  Our country could be gone in the wink of an eye, and primarily because people like you do not know how to tell the difference between a difference in policy positions generic to our political parties, AND an real existential threat to our very Republic.

Wake up.

Rules for surviving an Autocracy:

Rule#1: Believe the Autocrat.
Rule#2: Do not be taken in by small signs of normality.
Rule#3: Institutions will not save you.
Rule#4: Be outraged.
Rule#5: Don't make compromises.
Rule#6: Remember the future.

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#25 sierraleone

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Posted 23 July 2017 - 08:24 PM

LOTS, we've talked about the use of the word survival while discussing the risks of rights rolling-back under Trump and 'oppression under Obama' before….

View Postsierraleone, on 11 February 2017 - 12:19 PM, said:

View PostLord of the Sword, on 11 February 2017 - 11:55 AM, said:

View Postyadda yadda, on 11 February 2017 - 09:03 AM, said:

the vindictive condemnation and delegitimization of anyone who opposes or disagrees.

That's how Conservatives felt under Obama. We survived 8 years of that, I'm sure you'll survive at least 4 (hopefully 8) years of Trump.

You mean some conservatives spent 8 years feeling oppressed, some of them because they couldn't oppress and bully other people any more.
Some of those people, that the so-call conservatives oppressed and bullied, felt for the first time society and culture, and even the government at times too, was unequivocally treating them as actual people, actual equal citizens, not like second or third class citizens.
Of course, they survived hate and oppression throughout history (though not all of them did…). Some people aim for more than survival.

Edited by sierraleone, 23 July 2017 - 08:28 PM.

Rules for surviving an Autocracy:

Rule#1: Believe the Autocrat.
Rule#2: Do not be taken in by small signs of normality.
Rule#3: Institutions will not save you.
Rule#4: Be outraged.
Rule#5: Don't make compromises.
Rule#6: Remember the future.
- Masha Gessen
Source: http://www2.nybooks....r-survival.html

#26 gsmonks

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 12:18 AM

SCROTUM what? What did I miss?
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