Lord of the Sword, on 29 August 2017 - 03:48 PM, said:
yadda yadda, on 29 August 2017 - 11:04 AM, said:
As to your question this thread title poses, in other countless repetitive threads started by you I've asked you a question that you've never answered. Where is your outrage? We see you pulling this old chestnut out and posting it at least once a month. Why have we never seen you posting your outrage about the hundreds of innocent blacks getting shot in the back by police, or shot in the front, pretty much shot for doing just about anything? We never hear anything from you about that. But Antifa? You'd think they were freaking ISIS for all the attention you pay these irrelevant fringees. Where was your thread about outrage when the racist white boy gunned down 12 or 15 black churchgoers? Does your outrage take Sundays off? Where was your outrage thread when Philando Castile was shot and killed for no reason in front of his kid in the back seat? What racist hate group did these churchgoers or Mr. Castile belong to? Maybe your outrage filter needs to go into the shop for a tuneup, LoTS.
Irrelevant fringes? Ask those assaulted how irrelevant Antifa is. No, they haven't beheaded anyone, like ISIS has. But give Antifa time, I'm sure they are working up to it.
Where was my outrage, for the murdered Church goers? It was there. I called out the racist for exactly what he was...a murdering racist. Did I jump on the "We must get rid of the Confederate Flag, going so far to even remove it from the Dukes of Hazzard General Lee? No, I didn't jump on that bandwagon. I'm afraid you, and those hypocrites on the Left, had that bandwagon all to yourselves. As for Castile, what happened was tragic. But there was no video, other then what his girlfriend took AFTER the shooting. It could've been a trigger happy racist cop, or it could've been that Castile didn't stop reaching for his carry permit, or it could've been something else entirely. We just don't know. Although I do find it highly interesting that right away you have assumed that the cop was the villain.
At least one CAN ask those assaulted by Antifa how relevant or irrelevant they consider Antifa. No one can ask Heather Heyer how irrelevant she considers the neo-Nazis because one of them murdered her. We can't ask her about how she feels about the other Nazis going on TV and the Internet to laugh at her for being too slow and heavy to dodge their buddy's car. We can't ask her how she feels about her mother getting death threats from these fine "Conservative groups".
As for the Castile case, there WAS another video of the shooting...the police dash cam video. I saw it. The police dept. released it the day after the guy was let go by the jury. Maybe you missed it, as busy as you always are on here questioning the Left's outrage. You have no idea what I thought "right away" when the Castile case broke. I make it a habit of waiting for more illuminating information and reportage on things like this. Unlike some, like YOUR president. And I must admit, I find it interesting and revealing that now that the case is four or five months in the rear view mirror you still "just don't know" whether the officer was a trigger happy cop or not. Pumping 12 or 15 shots into a man in a car (all on dash cam video) and never receiving a single shot of return fire, with eye witness testimony stating the victim never pulled out the gun that he was legally authorized to carry and in fact clearly announced its presence to the officer. You can't come to a conclusion of there being a trigger happy cop? Right....
My point about your threads on outrage is that they are always pretty much carbon copies of what you have posted before...insert new "racist" hate group du jour or a few gang kids in Chicago or somewhere else doing sickening stuff that you can't understand why Schumer, Pelosi, and board members here aren't passing out mea culpas for, tearing out their hair and rending their garments. On the converse, where is YOUR president's outrage when hate crimes are perpetrated against Muslims in this country? No characters left in the old tweet machine for those? Why is it when a black or Latino gets murdered by the police and a grand jury lets the cops slide we get no tweeted outrage or official condemnation from YOUR president, just patting the cops on the back and telling them to be sure and get a little rougher with the heads of those arrestees, bang 'em good on the car door before taking them in? And then of course authorizing them some grenade launchers. And Ryan, McConnell, Sessions, Cruz, where's their outrage for the victims of police murders of racially targeted minorities? Crickets....just like you. There's a Conservative group for ya.
You say your outrage for the murdered churchgoers was there. Great, rack yourself a point up for your humanity. But the point is I never saw a thread by you calling out the Right asking them where was their outrage and how could this racist nutball get that gun and why other murderous racist Right Wing scum are so easily able to get efficient implements of mass destruction to act out their murderous racist impulses. Now you may say yadda that's not fair. Why should I be expected to post threads about my outrage that racist rednecks have easy access to assault rifles and extended magazines? Maybe I don't mind that guns are easy to get. I support the 2nd Amendment! And of course you'd be right. Why should you be expected to write your threads about outrage from my perspective?
But the unfairness of me calling you and your fellow travelers out for not decrying easy access to guns for crazies is analogous to you calling us and ours out for not expressing outrage about Antifa or Black Lives Matter. I personally admire and support BLM. I have no reason to be outraged by them. Antifa I don't think that much about. I am against them assaulting speakers in an unlawful manner. That is wrong. But on the other hand I can understand in the context of what is going on in our country why a counter effort crops up to balance the scales. When you have Nazis and the KKK running around rallying on our city streets it's bad enough. But when you have the pesident of the United States giving their assemblies cover and support as "fine people" you have a serious problem and threat to our country and its democratic stability and norms. And that's when you get an opposite reaction forming to meet such bizarreness as your president encourages. You say Antifa, standing for anti-fascist, as necessarily a bad thing. But the fascists they oppose are a bad thing too. Sometimes an infection requires a strong antidote or curative, with negative side effects. But Nazis and the KKK are an infection, a cancer to our body politic. Antifa may just be a nasty naturally arising anti-body or chemo treatment...maybe some hair falls out. Maybe a Right Winger or a Nazi gets roughed up. Heck, that can happen just putting an arrestee into a police car.
Equally applicable to your repeated calls for the "Left" to be outraged on behalf of your perspective of Antifa or BLM. Again, I don't personally identify as a "leftie". But I do have opinions about the Antifa activities in Berkeley and Charlottesville and the general goals of BLM. I do not condone or support the activities or tactics of the anti fascist criminals who assaulted the right wingers in Berkeley. I think they should be arrested if they can be identified, though I'll admit it appears the Berkeley police and city government didn't appear too motivated or prepared to stop the assaults. As for BLM I support and stand with their aims and goals. Their group acronym of BLM for Black Lives Matter is to me perfectly descriptive of what they seek to accomplish. They wish to stop the egregious repeated incidents of murder and unwarranted abuse of black people by police, which is systematically enabled and supported by racist oriented policies of a broken justice system, prosecutorial and judiciary. Your opposition I believe is fostered by your own prejudices inflamed by the racist urgings of the media you are manipulated by.
Okay, I've rambled enough.
Edited by yadda yadda, 29 August 2017 - 09:57 PM.