This is amazing. I didn't want it to stop -- I wish they'd shown all four hours back-to-back. Full-on crossover from the start, lots of character intermixing. So many huge, intense scenes in Part 1, both character-driven and action-driven. So many great lines. Kara singing "Running Home to You." And the surprise cameos. Guardian-X is Captain America and/or The Shield! Tommy Merlyn is Prometheus-X! And lots of big action sequences. I particularly appreciated the construction-site rescue sequence -- I always like a rescue scene better than a fight scene. Although it's hard to believe Green Arrow could help hold a building up just by wrapping a bunch of ziplines around the girders.
My main disappointment is that they didn't have the time, budget, or room to include even more. They keep having to contrive ways to leave people out, like Wally taking Joe and Cecile to safety at the end of part 1, or Cisco being knocked out in part 2, or the rest of the Legends just haring off to the Stone Age offscreen for no clear reason. The biggest oversight so far is that they haven't addressed Sara's reaction to Thawne's latest, inexplicable return. At this point, he's as much her archnemesis as the Flash's.
But it was a nice surprise when Team Arrow showed up to fight Dark Arrow. "They wanted to wait, but I don't think we've ever had a better intro line." And it looks like they'll be playing an important role tomorrow.
And we sure got what many of us were hoping for with Sara and Alex -- and then some. Heck, I was expecting them to flirt for four episodes and maybe share a kiss at the end. I was dreaming too small. You know, the previews had gotten me thinking about how similar Sara and Alex were -- both badass warrior women with no superpowers but unstoppable fighting skills, and both into other women, of course -- but what's impressive is that pairing them off has revealed how much they aren't
the same, with Alex being much more insecure about her sex life and her identity. It shows how good the character writing is on these shows, that bringing together the two most similar characters was an opportunity to explore their differences.
The bit about Overgirl dying from flying too close to the Sun was a nice nod to Grant Morrison and Frank Quitely's All-Star Superman
. But the question is, how
did Overgirl fly close to the Sun? Supergirl
's first-season finale established that Kryptonians can't fly in space without an atmosphere to push against. But maybe Overgirl was in her Kryptonian pod at the time? Which raises the next question -- Why
was she flying near the Sun? How does that benefit the Fatherland or the Reich or the Fuhrer?
Is Part 2 the first Arrow
episode (technically) that takes place entirely in Central City (aside from the tag scene on Earth-X)?
Virgil Vox, on 27 November 2017 - 11:46 PM, said:
My only complaint is that Reverse Flash is, well, Reverse Flash. I had just assumed he was the Earth-X evil Flash. I really don't like them bringing back Thawne again with literally no explanation. I like the character and he was a good villain but I feel like he has run his course at this point.
"Run his course" -- heh.
Anyway, maybe we'll get more of an explanation if and when we finally get a scene between him and Sara or the other Legends. Although it is a bit arbitrary that he decided to go back to Wells's face for no good reason -- I guess they just couldn't get Matt Letscher, or didn't want to spend money on one more guest star when they could just use one of their regulars.
Very surprising that Overgirl and Dark Arrow are married.
I wonder how that can even work. Kind of a "Woman of Steel, Man of Kleenex" situation there. I know they touched on that issue in Supergirl
's first season, but I don't recall if Kara's ever been intimate with anyone other than Mon-El.
I wonder who the Fuhrer is and whether we will meet him in the cross-over?
Two guesses: either it'll be some surprise doppelganger of an Arrowverse character (Damien Darhk? Malcolm Merlyn? Martin Stein?), or they'll drop hints implying that it's Trump.
I love the all metal Metallo.
Who spoke in a female voice, it sounded like. Will we get another surprise revelation of her identity?
I really thought Killer Frost had taken Dark Arrow out. She literally froze his bow and most of his arm. I expected her to shatter it pretty quickly. I didn't like how easily she was taken out.
It seems that, despite her sobriquet, Frost has been toning down her lethality lately, particularly since she and Caitlin came to terms in "Girls' Night Out." Although you'd think that when it came to fighting Nazis, she wouldn't have held back.
Also, it's not like she touched his bare skin. She probably just froze his glove and sleeve. His costume probably provides a lot of protection.
Felicity and Iris are left to defend themselves in Nazi-occupied STAR Labs. I feel bad for those Nazis.
Heh. That sounds like the cover text on a comics issue...
Felicity turning down Oliver's proposal was something I didn't see coming. I understand her reasoning but bad things will happen whether she and Oliver are married or not.
It would've been nice to see a double wedding, but it's good that each couple has its own distinct dynamic. Although there's still a chance that Felicity could change her mind by the end of the crossover...
I wonder who the waitress was at the wedding who was taking to Barry. It has to be important to the plot in some way.
Cisco got taken out fairly easy. I guess they needed him out of the way to make it harder to rescue our trapped heroes on Earth-X?
The production schedules could only accommodate so many actors at a time. It reportedly took six weeks to film this, and they had to do it at the same time that they were filming other episodes of the individual shows. That's why all four shows have been doing episodes that diminished their lead actors' presence -- Supergirl
's extended flashback to teenage Kara and Alex in "Midvale," The Flash
doing the Barry-lite "Girls' Night Out" (and the FX-lite "Therefore I Am," presumably to clear up the FX team's schedule and budget for the crossover), Legends
putting Sara in a coma for most of "Welcome to the Jungle," and Arrow
doing two episodes' worth of Deathstroke flashbacks to reduce Oliver's screen time. It follows that the crossover itself would need to free up some of its cast members so they could work on the other shows.
I totally agree. What I love about these shows is that they're not afraid to embrace their comic books roots. It's a reason why I've found it hard to get into the Netflix Marvel shows. They're all so dark and so intent on proving how serious they are and how they're not your typical comic book shows that they suck all the fun out of the fact that they are comic book shows.
The DC shows are better at balancing the light and dark and are better able to introduce things like a giant gorilla with mind control powers or time traveling Legends or hordes of invading aliens or magical imps.
I think there's room for both approaches, and I'm glad the two are different from each other. Marvel TV has had a weak year with Iron Fist
, but for the most part they do well in their own way. I just wish that somebody other than Berlanti Productions could figure out how to make a good DC show, rather than saddling us with stuff like Gotham