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#1 sierraleone

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Posted 05 August 2018 - 01:18 PM

Why am I the first one posting this? :D This news is ~22 hours old as I understand it ;)

In the U.S. will be thru CBS All-Access, ETA fall 2019.

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Posted 05 August 2018 - 01:37 PM

What's more, my friend and fellow Star Trek novelist Kirsten Beyer is apparently the originator of the idea and will be part of the show's creative team, along with several of her fellow Discovery staffers, as well as novelist Michael Chabon.

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Posted 05 August 2018 - 03:25 PM

Of all the new Trek projects that have been announced, this is the only one that interests me even slightly.  The fact that the project is under the direction of the same people who brought us JJ Trek and Discovery does not bode well for its quality-- on the other hand, it's the only project that may actually be a direct continuation of original Trek, and Stewart has undoubtedly negotiated himself some creative control, so that leaves room for some hope.
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Posted 05 August 2018 - 06:34 PM

View PostRJDiogenes, on 05 August 2018 - 03:25 PM, said:

The fact that the project is under the direction of the same people who brought us JJ Trek and Discovery does not bode well for its quality...

The only person involved with either Discovery or this who had any connection with the Kelvin films is Alex Kurtzman. Other than him, they have no writers or producers in common at all (though they do share a few production staffers like alien makeup designer Neville Page and ship/tech designer John Eaves).

Also, this show will be without Gretchen Berg & Aaron Harberts, the showrunners to DSC season 1 who were fired partway through season 2. What I gather is that a lot of season 1's problems were a result of their decisions, so that's an encouraging sign for the future. Plus the involvement of acclaimed novelist Michael Chabon on the Picard show's staff is a hell of a coup. There's also James Duff, who was brought in to replace Berg & Harberts on DSC and has no prior Trek experience, so he's an unknown quantity.
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Posted 05 August 2018 - 07:28 PM

Actually, he wrote "FORTUNATE SON", a season 1 episode of ENTERPRISE.

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Posted 05 August 2018 - 08:43 PM

View PostFarscapeOne, on 05 August 2018 - 07:28 PM, said:

Actually, he wrote "FORTUNATE SON", a season 1 episode of ENTERPRISE.

Ah, okay. Still, that was a single freelance script, which is a far cry from being a co-showrunner.
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Posted 13 August 2018 - 05:17 PM

Here's a great little documentary that sums up the Discovery debacle, along with information about the impact of rights, contracts, and merchandising, and how it might all affect Star Trek:  The Next Picard.


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Posted 13 August 2018 - 05:23 PM

View PostRJDiogenes, on 13 August 2018 - 05:17 PM, said:

Here's a great little documentary that sums up the Discovery debacle, along with information about the impact of rights, contracts, and merchandising, and how it might all affect Star Trek:  The Next Picard.

That's not a "great little documentary," it's paranoid nonsense from some conspiracy theorists who have no idea what they're talking about. It's a total fabrication and you might as well be posting a Flat-Earther video. Here's a TrekBBS thread where the video is debunked: https://www.trekbbs....reasons.295463/
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#9 Virgil Vox

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Posted 16 August 2018 - 02:17 PM

I'll give this one a try because it will be nice to see Stewart being Picard again and I hope we see other TNG characters as well.

The only reason I wish this hadn't happened is because of the Treklit novels. They have set up a great post-series/movies universe and this new show is bound to contradict a lot of what the novels have established. I would hate to see the novels as they are now done away with but if that does happen I only hope the series are given a nice send-off.

I'm not going to rage against the new series like I've seen some fans do. If Pocket believes they can bring new readers and attention to the novels by doing away with the novel-verse continuity and setting new books in the new Picard series timeline then I'll be fine with that because at least we did get a decade or more of the novel-verse.
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 02:51 PM

View PostVirgil Vox, on 16 August 2018 - 02:17 PM, said:

I'll give this one a try because it will be nice to see Stewart being Picard again and I hope we see other TNG characters as well.

I'm actually more interested to see what new characters they come up with.


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The only reason I wish this hadn't happened is because of the Treklit novels. They have set up a great post-series/movies universe and this new show is bound to contradict a lot of what the novels have established. I would hate to see the novels as they are now done away with but if that does happen I only hope the series are given a nice send-off.

It happened before, to the loose '80s novel continuity when TNG came along. It's the occupational hazard of any tie-in series. Heck, it's the occupational hazard of all science fiction that it will eventually be rendered obsolete by the advance of real-world science or simply the march of the calendar. I feel lucky to have been part of building the ongoing novel continuity for the past 15 years, but I've always known we were probably living on borrowed time.


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I'm not going to rage against the new series like I've seen some fans do. If Pocket believes they can bring new readers and attention to the novels by doing away with the novel-verse continuity and setting new books in the new Picard series timeline then I'll be fine with that because at least we did get a decade or more of the novel-verse.

It's not a matter of Pocket's belief. The job of licensed tie-ins is to tie in, to follow the lead of the original work that they're adapting and supporting. Whatever Star Trek does onscreen, the tie-ins are obligated to remain consistent with, because that's what we've been commissioned to do by the folks who own the franchise.
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 06:09 PM

View PostVirgil Vox, on 16 August 2018 - 02:17 PM, said:

I'll give this one a try because it will be nice to see Stewart being Picard again and I hope we see other TNG characters as well.  
Yeah, I really hope we at least get cameos by all of the old crew, if not substantial roles. Data's a bit of a problem, but I can think of several ways to deal with that.
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Posted 17 August 2018 - 06:22 AM

View PostChristopher, on 13 August 2018 - 05:23 PM, said:

View PostRJDiogenes, on 13 August 2018 - 05:17 PM, said:

Here's a great little documentary that sums up the Discovery debacle, along with information about the impact of rights, contracts, and merchandising, and how it might all affect Star Trek:  The Next Picard.

That's not a "great little documentary," it's paranoid nonsense from some conspiracy theorists who have no idea what they're talking about. It's a total fabrication and you might as well be posting a Flat-Earther video. Here's a TrekBBS thread where the video is debunked: https://www.trekbbs....reasons.295463/

Woah, that are some very aggressive and brutal words towards Midnight Edge.
I also saw this video and one or two others from them before.
They come across as well informed and knowledgeable and provide info that came true, which proves my impression that they have some inside knowledge.
So I must wonder how you come to such an aggressive and harsh opinion and even playing the lately in abundance overused "conspiracy theorist" card for everyone daring to deviate from "acceptable opinion".

BTW that link you provided allegedly debunking them does not work.

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#13 Virgil Vox

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Posted 19 August 2018 - 07:23 PM

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It happened before, to the loose '80s novel continuity when TNG came along. It's the occupational hazard of any tie-in series. Heck, it's the occupational hazard of all science fiction that it will eventually be rendered obsolete by the advance of real-world science or simply the march of the calendar. I feel lucky to have been part of building the ongoing novel continuity for the past 15 years, but I've always known we were probably living on borrowed time.

I knew that it was always a possibility that the current form of Treklit could come to an end but I was hoping it would live in for a few more years. I only just started reading the novels a few years back and they rekindled my interest in Star Trek.

Still, there are a lot of books I haven't read yet, which is why I am slowly making my way through my great Treklit chronological reading marathon. This way I read the novels more or less in order and get the novels I missed the first time through, like your Department of Temporal Investigations novels.
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Posted 19 August 2018 - 07:32 PM

Well, at this point, we don't know what might happen with the novels. For what it's worth, the novel continuity survived Enterprise. There were a few cases where that show contradicted what previous novels had established -- on things like the appearance of the Tholians or the name and climate of the Andorian homeworld, for instance -- and the novels just incorporated the new versions and either reconciled them or just pretended they'd been that way all along.
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Posted 27 August 2018 - 12:52 PM

View PostKosmokrat, on 17 August 2018 - 06:22 AM, said:

View PostChristopher, on 13 August 2018 - 05:23 PM, said:

View PostRJDiogenes, on 13 August 2018 - 05:17 PM, said:

Here's a great little documentary that sums up the Discovery debacle, along with information about the impact of rights, contracts, and merchandising, and how it might all affect Star Trek:  The Next Picard.

That's not a "great little documentary," it's paranoid nonsense from some conspiracy theorists who have no idea what they're talking about. It's a total fabrication and you might as well be posting a Flat-Earther video. Here's a TrekBBS thread where the video is debunked: https://www.trekbbs....reasons.295463/

Woah, that are some very aggressive and brutal words towards Midnight Edge.
I also saw this video and one or two others from them before.
They come across as well informed and knowledgeable and provide info that came true, which proves my impression that they have some inside knowledge.
So I must wonder how you come to such an aggressive and harsh opinion and even playing the lately in abundance overused "conspiracy theorist" card for everyone daring to deviate from "acceptable opinion".

BTW that link you provided allegedly debunking them does not work.

So after enough time has passed it is clear you do not plan to even react to my post, let alone answer any questions.

Not too long ago I received an email asking me to come back to exisle after not having posted anything here for a long time, but this reminded me why I left in the first place.
There was/is hardly an interesting exchange of opinions possible anymore, not many are still active here and part of the reason might be that some "demigods" seem to be above talking with common islanders. :)
Doesn't really lead to an active community!

p.s. There is a new video from Midnights Edge touching the topic of CBS being sued for plagiarism regarding ST DIscovery.


Pretty hilarious that CBS might have done and is being sued for, what they sued Axanar for.
Karma... ^^

Edited by Kosmokrat, 27 August 2018 - 12:59 PM.

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Posted 27 August 2018 - 06:44 PM

One of the few things I liked about Discovery was the Space Tardigrade. It figures that it wasn't their idea.  :lol:
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Posted 27 August 2018 - 08:17 PM

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Not too long ago I received an email asking me to come back to exisle after not having posted anything here for a long time, but this reminded me why I left in the first place.
There was/is hardly an interesting exchange of opinions possible anymore, not many are still active here and part of the reason might be that some "demigods" seem to be above talking with common islanders. :)
Doesn't really lead to an active community!

I do hope you stick around. We might not be as active anymore but we can still get some good discussions going.

I can't really talk about Discovery much because I didn't like the first season and never finished it. I'm not sure if I will, honestly.

I do have hope for the Picard series, whatever form it may take. I doubt we will see him on the bridge of the Enterprise but who knows? I'll be happy as long as it is a more hopeful series and if we see some of the old cast return, even if it is just for cameos.
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Posted 31 August 2018 - 12:03 AM

If CBS/Parmount's legal team found this guy's you stole my tardigrade allegations credible, it would have been such an embarassment for the studio that this guy would have been offered non disclosure agreements and lots of shut up and go away money immediately.  That fact that the studio has evidently not done this tells me they do not find his allegations credible.

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Posted 31 August 2018 - 06:47 AM

Nuisance plagiarism lawsuits are an unfortunate fact of life in the entertainment industry. Whenever anything is successful, someone who's created something coincidentally and remotely similar will try to sue its creators in hopes of making a lot of money. This looks like just another such frivolous lawsuit. Okay, so two works of fiction featured sci-fi versions of tardigrades within a few years of each other, and both connected them to some sort of space drive. That's no surprise, because there's been a lot of science reporting in the past decade about tardigrades' remarkable durability, their evolutionary weirdness, and how they could even potentially survive drifting through space, lending credence to the panspermia hypothesis that microscopic life could spread from planet to planet. So the idea of "tardigrades = space travel" has been osmosing through pop culture for at least a decade, and thus it's natural that more than one work of science fiction would extrapolate from that, whether by merely creating an alien species that looked like giant tardigrades (as Netflix's Voltron: Legendary Defender has done) or by positing that said species had some kind of innate star-travel power.

And, come on, part of the basis of the guy's lawsuit is that his game features a blond white male and so does Discovery? Seriously? Like blond white males are in any way rare in American fiction.
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Posted 31 August 2018 - 09:18 AM

View PostVirgil Vox, on 27 August 2018 - 08:17 PM, said:

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Not too long ago I received an email asking me to come back to exisle after not having posted anything here for a long time, but this reminded me why I left in the first place.
There was/is hardly an interesting exchange of opinions possible anymore, not many are still active here and part of the reason might be that some "demigods" seem to be above talking with common islanders. :)
Doesn't really lead to an active community!

I do hope you stick around. We might not be as active anymore but we can still get some good discussions going.

I can't really talk about Discovery much because I didn't like the first season and never finished it. I'm not sure if I will, honestly.

I do have hope for the Picard series, whatever form it may take. I doubt we will see him on the bridge of the Enterprise but who knows? I'll be happy as long as it is a more hopeful series and if we see some of the old cast return, even if it is just for cameos.

I too have hope that the Picard series will be a return to the TNG style of Trek. And hopefully in line of established things and not contradicting close to everything established in previous Trek incarnations, like on STD.

Some guest appearances would be lovely as well.
But I doubt Sir Stewart will play a MAJOR role in this in regard to screen time comparable to TNG.
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