Mark, on 30 October 2018 - 05:20 PM, said:
Mark: I'm sick of the bias coming out of CNN. Everybody always complains about Fox News but CNN and MSNBC are just as bad.
Well to bias is to human.
Sometimes what was perceived as "objective" reporting was not, because what is perceived as the "default" p.o.v./narrative/person was and is not default, even if it was/is common.
I am unsure if you are referring specifically to your following part, or whether you have other examples.
Both sider-ism is also a bias, and is not always a good or fair impulse either.
Claiming that it's Trump's fault that these people got shot in the synagogue would be like saying it's Trump's fault the people in Las Vegas got shot or the people in Texas at the church got shot.
I wouldn't say it is his fault.
Environment and context matters. For example: Do we really think Americans are inherently lazier today over a generation ago, and that is what lead to the obesity epidemic, or that the environment that changed and the obesity trend is a result of acclimation?
I would say he contributed to the atmosphere that lead to a recent increase in hate crimes. Do we think there are more anti-semites or do we think people who are anti-semites feel the environment is more permissive to demonstrating their anti-semitism? Or both?
But I wouldn't say Trump is the cause, more of a symptom. However, what he says matters, as the U.S. leader.
However, the shooter has ultimate responsibility for his actions. Though the U.S. does have laws about inciting violence and riots and such, so, in probably very narrow circumstances, sometimes other people are be held legally in part responsible for other people's behavior.
And as far as the migrants coming in by the thousands... it IS an invasion!
What do you mean? How so? Invasion is quite a charged word is it not?
I think it was a very appropriate that the president went to Pittsburgh today to pay his respects regardless of the people that want to make this about Trump. It was not appropriate for the people to protest. The protesters manage to mess up the grieving process more than Trump. If Obama had been going to Pittsburgh to help Comfort The Grieving families everybody would have been praising him on CNN.
Even if the grievers did not want him there? And Trump makes it about himself, arguably in not stopping campaigning at all, in going when plenty have asked him not to, and also in tweets he sent out after.
Tweet: Melania and I were treated very nicely yesterday in Pittsburgh
. The Office of the President was shown great respect on a very sad & solemn day.
We were treated so warmly. Small protest was not seen by us, staged far away. The Fake News stories were just the opposite-Disgraceful!
The bolded part of the tweet is practically the only part about the attack on the Tree of Life, and the rest is about him and his pettiness.
So if everybody wants to point the finger at Trump and say it's all his fault, I believe everybody needs to look at themselves and what they can do to make things better instead of blaming it all on Donald Trump.
I know from experience that blaming it all on one person is never the right response. Blame is the usually at least a two-way street.
What does that mean and look like to you?
Edited by sierraleone, 02 November 2018 - 06:28 AM.