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POTUS 2019

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#1 Virgil Vox

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Posted 06 January 2019 - 04:19 PM

Thought I should start a new thread for the new year though not much has changed. The government shutdown is still going on, with Trump saying he will let it continue for years of need be and that he will declare a state of emergency if he has to to build the wall.

At this point I think it depends on who the public puts the blame for the shut-down on to determine who blinks first. Trump isn't going to back down, and his hard core supporters will still support him no matter what. Democrats probably don't want their first big action in the House to be caving in to Trump.

Still, I hate we get a resolution to this crisis sooner rather than later.
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Posted 08 January 2019 - 06:43 PM

So apparently, Trump will be making an address on prime time TV tonight.  Something about making the case for his wall, and the shutdown.  As far as I know, all the major networks will be airing this.  I believe a responding statement from the Democrats will air afterwords.

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Trump to address the nation tonight

Networks set to air Trump's prime time address; Pelosi, Schumer demand equal time

How to watch President Trump's prime-time address tonight

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Posted 09 January 2019 - 03:34 PM

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 05:01 PM

It occurs to me that Ind One fancies himself and brags about being a rich billionaire. Why can't he front the $5.7 billion that Mexico is going to pay from his own funds and then have the US Treasury repay him, plus interest, from the USMCA trade deal windfall he says is a sure bet. If he is so certain of this future US disposable income he can put his own money on the borderline with confidence.

And having that Mexico money stored for him in the Treasury's strong box would provide him with a steady pad for expenses for Diet Cokes and other incidentals from the prison store, as long as it accepts pesos.

#5 Elara

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Posted 16 January 2019 - 12:29 AM

View Postyadda yadda, on 12 January 2019 - 05:01 PM, said:

It occurs to me that Ind One fancies himself and brags about being a rich billionaire. Why can't he front the $5.7 billion that Mexico is going to pay from his own funds and then have the US Treasury repay him, plus interest, from the USMCA trade deal windfall he says is a sure bet. If he is so certain of this future US disposable income he can put his own money on the borderline with confidence.

And having that Mexico money stored for him in the Treasury's strong box would provide him with a steady pad for expenses for Diet Cokes and other incidentals from the prison store, as long as it accepts pesos.

He is broke now. After all, he paid for all those "hamberders":

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Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump  13h13 hours ago
Great being with the National Champion Clemson Tigers last night at the White House. Because of the Shutdown I served them massive amounts of Fast Food (I paid), over 1000 hamburgers etc. Within one hour, it was all gone. Great guys and big eaters!

It started out as 300 hamburgers, when he was being interviewed, but I guess that number didn't seem quite large enough.
Can you imagine? Getting invited to the White House and being served fast food? He could afford to buy fast food, but not pay for a caterer? Fast food, on silver plates, trays, etc... with candles providing the ambiance.


Then I came across this tweet:

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Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump  16h16 hours ago
Why is Nancy Pelosi getting paid when people who are working are not?

Starting with 45, I want to know why any of them are getting paid. But mostly him, he is the one (along with McConnell) who has decided that the one time wall, now it could be a fence, yeah, a fence will do, you know, a "see-through wall of steel", is more important than keeping the government running.
I wonder how long before his followers realize that what he is doing is not such a good thing? Though, I don't think we will get that far. After all, he can't stand not being admired. Imagine if his followers turn on him.
Then again, his current puppet master (president McConnell), could throw a wrench into things.
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#6 Virgil Vox

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Posted 16 January 2019 - 07:51 AM

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Starting with 45, I want to know why any of them are getting paid. But mostly him, he is the one (along with McConnell) who has decided that the one time wall, now it could be a fence, yeah, a fence will do, you know, a "see-through wall of steel", is more important than keeping the government running.
I wonder how long before his followers realize that what he is doing is not such a good thing? Though, I don't think we will get that far. After all, he can't stand not being admired. Imagine if his followers turn on him.
Then again, his current puppet master (president McConnell), could throw a wrench into things.

Unfortunately it seems that the hard core Republican base has started supporting the wall even more now since Trump has made it such an issue. Sure, plenty of polls show that the rest of America don't care about the wall, that they blame Trump and the Republicans for closing down the government, and that they want the government re-opened sooner rather than later but Trump doesn't care about any of that. All he sees is that his base is fired up and are telling him how great he is so he isn't going to end the shut down anytime soon. I hope I'm wrong about that, though.
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#7 Cait

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Posted 16 January 2019 - 07:36 PM

I think it is all a deflection for something worse.

I don't think he cares about the wall. I think he needs to fight like he cares for his base, but [yes, I've turned into a conspiracy theorist] I read an article that said that even when the government opens up again, not all the furloughed people will be given back their jobs. I'm not sure if they can do this, but I think that gutting the government of civil servants is the main objective here.

Gut agencies, employees and the government begins to shut down on itself from pure overload. That has to feed right into the plans of Putin. Strike a blow from the inside to weaken a functioning government, encroach into Europe [like Ukraine] and begin to demolish the NATO Alliance.

These all seem to just be crazy antics from a mentally unbalanced President, but if you look deeper, it is dangerous. Trump has already been stacking the courts, and the courts will be the only way to stop much of what will eventually destroy us. I truly believe he will lash out and hurt the American people in order to keep us distracted from what he is doing to the actual government in  furtherance of whatever Russia's plans are. He is not a mental giant, but Putin actually is.

Our courts are weakened.
Our alliances abroad are weakened
Government is shut down [and many might not return]
Congress appears to be impotent
Tariffs are gutting our own agricultural exports, and China is now buying soybeans from [wait for it] Russia.

Does this sound like just some random occurrences from a crazy incompetent President, or an I the only one that sees a real pattern here?

Russia is a poor country. It's people are poor. Putin needs resources form other countries, and doesn't want to play nice to get them. Russia has always been in need of European resources. It's a cold, desolate wasteland for the most part. Ukraine has always been needed for food production, plus it has a warm water port. Since Peter the Great, they have wanted a warm water port, so they can trade efficiently.

Meanwhile, #45 continues to dismantle our government, Russia and China fill the vacuum we are creating, and we're all distracted by some idiocy about a freaking wall. It's madness not to see what is happening.

And apparently, there isn't a damn thing we can do about any of it. Someone is pissing our country away, and we're left standing here watching it implode. It's been a slow moving coup all along.

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#8 gsmonks

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Posted 18 January 2019 - 02:08 PM

I feel the same way. I saw his tenure ending with at least an attempted coup back when I predicted he would win the election.

I long ago lost interest in Newsie outlets like CNN that keep pulling old news out of their arse as though it entailed brand-new revelations. All the stuff about Cohen and Manafort was in the news a year ago and more.All of it.

CNN's daily-repeated lie that CNN is "the most-trusted name in news" is especially grating, along with their use of the term "breaking news". They repeat the same spew for days on end, claiming all the while that it's "breaking news".

It's breaking something. Wind, perhaps.
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Posted 18 January 2019 - 04:14 PM

Well, the Senate isn't completely stagnant. They found enough energy to have 42 Republicans vote to make sure that Russian oligarchs like Deripaska don't suffer or miss any pay or profit while American federal employees are left by the wayside.



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