THE ORVILLE - S2, E9: "IDENTITY, PART II"...
Posted 28 February 2019 - 11:37 AM
(We already know this as last week's episode, but this was the description that was available.)
Posted 28 February 2019 - 06:29 PM
I've been thinking about how this might turn out. I'd be surprised if the kids weren't involved in the resolution, especially since there was that scene of the Kaylon entering their quarters, but no scene of them in captivity. I also noticed that there was no clear TOS-like message in this story yet (aside from "It's bad to kill people and hide their bodies in your basement"), so I think that will come into play in the finale. Given the title of the episode and the hypocrisy of the Kaylons' ideology (they berated the humans for things like genocide before being revealed as far worse), I think it may end up being a commentary on Identity Politics. Those who are not like us must be destroyed. Given the very irrational and un-robotlike behaviors of the Kaylons, they may realize that they are actually just acting out the programming of the people they hated, and have become just like them. It may be significant that Isaac talked about altering his own programming in the Big Romance episode, because that would mean that the Kaylons can give up their genocidal programming if they choose to.
Posted 01 March 2019 - 12:53 AM
This was an epic episode. Isaac an exile, possible open door for peace with the Krill, and that battle... that was movie quality.
Game changer episodes, indeed. There better be a third season. I will be extremely shocked if it doesn't get it, especially the discount the show will get for a third season according to a list of shows that was getting that break next season.
Edited by FarscapeOne, 01 March 2019 - 12:55 AM.
Posted 01 March 2019 - 06:56 PM
However, there were a million things to love about this episode, the uppermost one being Yaphit getting his moment to shine. I love how he saved Ty by leaping onto, and into, the Kaylon, nearly making a fried egg out of himself in the process. Ty himself played a great role, helping to send the message and never giving up on Isaac. Claire spent most of the episode playing the worried mother, but had a nice moment with Isaac at the end with her words of forgiveness. And, of course, Gordon and Kelly got to go recruit the Krill as allies. The narrow escape from the shuttle bay and the life-or-death quantum jump were overkill, but I laughed out loud when Gordon appeared in that Krill fighter and made faces at the Krill next to him. And, just so we don't forget that this is The Orville, we have the pee wall and Gordon asking the Krill captain if he was high.
So, in the end, it was a game changer, like they said-- the Kaylons are now Galactic Enemy Number One and the Krill are potential allies, Avis willing, but it remains to be seen how things will change for Isaac. Will he feel more free to alter his own programming now that he is forever alone, as the head of the Primary said? Nothing was mentioned, but presumably the Kaylons can no longer turn him on or off at will. What will become of his relationship to Claire-- and will he have competition in Yaphit, now that Yaphit risked his life to save Ty? And we still don't know what motivates the Kaylons. They talked about expansion into the galaxy, but for what purpose? We know what turns them off, but what turns them on?
Posted 01 March 2019 - 09:26 PM
That said, 'twas marvelous, wasn't it?
Good performances by the whole cast, great musical score and the VFX team really earned their pay for this one.
Posted 01 March 2019 - 09:33 PM
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Posted 03 March 2019 - 05:30 PM
Another thing to consider, too. Eventually, every star will go cold, and likely nova. If they just stay on Kaylon and never go outward, when that happens they become extinct.
Posted 03 March 2019 - 07:16 PM
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Posted 31 March 2019 - 05:41 PM
The CGI here was amazing. The Kaylon home world was a visual feast and I loved the shots of the Orville descending into the atmosphere. The space battle at the end was simply epic and awesome. It was a visual feast.
The pee corner. Funny, and honestly something that had to be addressed. How many times have we seen in shows, sci-fi or not, where a large group of characters are locked up in a confined space for several hours? They would have to have a place to use the bathroom.
I did feel that Isaac had a rather abrupt about face but hopefully that will be addressed in later episodes. I hope that things don't go back to normal for him. While he did the right thing in the end he did stand by and let the other Kaylon murder quite a bit of the crew.
Yaphit's scenes were great. I was truly afraid that he was dead. The episodes did a good job of making it seem like the stakes were high enough that anyone could die.
Peace with the Krill, or at least an end to open hostilities. That's great, though I'm sure it won't be easy.
They defeated the Kaylon this time, but they are still out there. I doubt they will change their minds about killing every organic in existence. I wonder if they will be a recurring threat throughout the show's run or if their plot will be resolved quickly.
I liked Claire's speech about forgiveness and how hard it can be and how it takes time. She was hurt bad by Isaac but she seems willing to forgive him. Whether that means they resume their relationship or not remains to be seen.
Edited by Virgil Vox, 31 March 2019 - 05:47 PM.
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Posted 31 March 2019 - 10:20 PM
It's almost like they are trading notes each year...
Posted 01 April 2019 - 05:02 PM
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