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SUPERNATURAL - S15, E11 - "THE GAMBLERS"...


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#1 FarscapeOne

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Posted 30 January 2020 - 05:16 AM

Sam and Dean press their luck in a winner-takes-all game of pool. Meanwhile, Castiel hunts down a would-be murderer, but not for reasons one might think.

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Posted 30 January 2020 - 08:28 PM

No Alaska?
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#3 FarscapeOne

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Posted 30 January 2020 - 08:53 PM

I'm betting that pool game has to do with it.  Probably something along the lines of "THE CURIOUS CASE OF DEAN WINCHESTER" with the poker game and betting with years.

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Posted 31 January 2020 - 09:28 AM

Brent Stait, otherwise known as Rev Bem from ANDROMEDA, was here!  He's been on a couple episodes before... one time in season 6 (half the ANDROMEDA cast appeared that season at one time or another) and all the way back in season 1 when he called out Dean's alias as "Isn't that the drummer from Led Zeppelin?".  It was good to see him again.

This episide posed an interesting moral question... do the boys really have the right to take on other people's fortune to help themselves out, even though they do things for a far greater good?  I know they felt bad after what happened with rodeo guy, so that must have entered their minds.

I was surprised by the ending... she actually helped them out.  I guess not all the pagan gods are bad.  It makes me wonder if Eleanor, back in season 6, was some kind of pagan god.  We never do find out what happens to them when they are killed.

A very interesting notion on their origins, by the way.  Humans indirectly created the pagan gods simply because Chuck couldn't stand not being the one they worshipped.  It really does play into what Amara said about him before with his ego.  And it does fit extremely well into his personality of creating stories... the pagan gods and mythology is a VERY rich source of countless epic tales and stories.  I really loved how they wove that into the series here.

So it looks like the last Grigori was killed.  We haven't seen them in a long time.  The idea of them actually creeps me out a bit, so I'm glad they are gone.

And Jack is back!  Rather ominous, what he said.  Angel hearts are the beginning?!  He's already extremely powerful, and adding angel hearts obviously must be quite a boost.  What the hell else can he need that the BEGINNING is eating angel hearts?

It leads me to wonder... since we see a pagan god here, could the next phase be all the remaining ones?  We've seen a lot of them killed during the series, but there are certainly many, many others still living off scraps, as Fortuna said.

Another thing... exactly how powerful IS Billie as Death?  Chuck was supposedly not able to have any sway or power in the Empty, but Billie is able to do whatever there?  We know Death was immensely old, possibly as old as Chuck.  Could he have actually been around BEFORE Chuck and Amara?  And the creature in the Empty... we still don't know what he is.

A thought occurs to me... could the creature there BE Death?  Either that's where he went after Dean killed him, or maybe what we saw as Death was not actually him, but more like an avatar of the Empty guy?  I find I hope this is the case, because that means we might see him again. Julian Richings was one of THE best casting choices the show ever did. He was totally perfect as Death. Hell, he was the ONLY entity that Dean ever showed deference to or respected.

With only 9 episodes left in the series, we should be getting the answers at a quick pace.  The season has been fantastic so far, and I look forward to it coming back for the final stretch.

Edited by FarscapeOne, 31 January 2020 - 09:36 AM.


#5 RJDiogenes

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Posted 02 February 2020 - 07:19 PM

North!  To Alaska!  :lol:

This was a great episode. We've got a very secluded operation here, where one of the forgotten gods makes her living-- of course, she's probably got a few of them around the world-- that is completely off the grid. No record of this in Hunter lore. Which again makes it curious that Garth somehow knew about it.  But still, it gave the episode a nicely extra mysterious feel, almost like a Twilight Zone episode.  And the boys lost, because the house always wins, but they still prevailed, because they impressed the Goddess of Luck-- she thought there were no more heroes in the world. But there are.  This makes me feel more than ever that they will not beat Chuck through magic or superior power, but by changing his mind.

And the real Jack is finally back.  Billie has a plan to kill Chuck, which-- typically-- involves grossness.  This is really interesting-- and I can't wait to hear Billie's explanation for why Death wants God dead-- perhaps it would just be the crowning achievement for such a being-- but I think it will ultimately fail.  And I'd be happy to see Jack take Chuck's place in our universe, despite my long-held belief that the boys will take over.  But after all this, it really needs to be a moral victory, not just a matter of firepower-- especially since only Amara really has that potential anyway.
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