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  Mar 11 2005, 03:29 PM
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 Dr. Who 1963-89, 1996, 2005- Group: Islander Posts: 40216 Joined: 28-September 02 From: Columbus, Ohio Member No.: 211  |
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QUOTE Daniel must once again decide whether to risk death or ascend when Oma Desala gives him a second chance. O'Neill and Carter struggle with their respective personal relationships.
-------------------- The longest-running science fiction series: decadent, degenerate and rotten to the core. Power-mad conspirators, Daleks, Sontarans... Cybermen! They're still in the nursery compared to us. Forty-three years of absolute fandom. That's what it takes to be really critical.
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Mar 11 2005, 07:40 PM
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 Now then . . .  Group: Moderator Posts: 6085 Joined: 18-January 03 From: Orlando, FL Member No.: 96 |
Not gunna spoil anything till after it airs . . . but this one's fun.
 Fairly mellow but they've got a LOT of loose ends to tie up in this one . . . I also think this episode shows us Oma at her best ever.  -Nick -------------------- |
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Mar 11 2005, 07:47 PM
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 Group: Islander Posts: 1691 Joined: 14-January 03 From: United States of America Member No.: 1 |
I'm not sure I can take 90 minutes of Oma's "The moose cooks the food years before the ants jump on a trampoline and then follow the giant space goat" philosophical and metaphysical musings.
But I'm looking forward to this. |
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Mar 11 2005, 07:59 PM
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 Group: Islander Posts: 1771 Joined: 3-May 03 Member No.: 467 |
Do I remember correctly, but did the last episode end with a cliffhanger where Daniel was probably dead? Or did they resolve that already?
-------------------- Please don't spoil future episodes, even if they've been previewed.
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Mar 11 2005, 08:04 PM
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Now then . . . Group: Moderator Posts: 6085 Joined: 18-January 03 From: Orlando, FL Member No.: 96 |
When last we left our beloved Daniel, Replicarter went Terminator on him and stabbed him, at which point he appeared mostly dead . . . and then the ship he was on disintegrated from the weapon on Dakara.
As far as Omaspeak goes . . . she's not speaking in riddles this time. It's actually pretty cool, IMHO. -Nick -------------------- |
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Mar 11 2005, 08:45 PM
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Dr. Who 1963-89, 1996, 2005- Group: Islander Posts: 40216 Joined: 28-September 02 From: Columbus, Ohio Member No.: 211 |
Well, I knew there was more to that thing than a weapon, it the engine of creation!
-------------------- The longest-running science fiction series: decadent, degenerate and rotten to the core. Power-mad conspirators, Daleks, Sontarans... Cybermen! They're still in the nursery compared to us. Forty-three years of absolute fandom. That's what it takes to be really critical.
"Don't mistake a few fans bitching on the Internet for any kind of trend." - Keith R.A. DeCandido |
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Mar 11 2005, 09:01 PM
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 jjjjjjjjjJazzjjjjjjjj Group: Islander Posts: 4812 Joined: 26-May 04 From: Lone Star galaxy Member No.: 905 |
QUOTE(DWF @ Mar 11 2005, 07:45 PM) Well, I knew there was more to that thing than a weapon, it the engine of creation!  So that's where Bob Engels hid it - on SG1!  (My apologies to those who are sensitive about references to Drom, but I just couldn't resist.) 
-------------------- Like cats, in one way or another we're all waiting for the sound of the can opener (the sound of something good to come).  |
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Mar 11 2005, 09:33 PM
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jjjjjjjjjJazzjjjjjjjj Group: Islander Posts: 4812 Joined: 26-May 04 From: Lone Star galaxy Member No.: 905 |
At the moment all I can say is WOW! Very cool! Great episode!
 This episode had so many nuances in it, I'm going to have to watch it again another time or two to try to catch it all. Loved the ending! A lot of good lines in it like: I'd like "Truth, with a side order of clarity." More comments later sometime. -------------------- Like cats, in one way or another we're all waiting for the sound of the can opener (the sound of something good to come). |
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Mar 11 2005, 09:39 PM
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 I'm a very *good* tailor  Group: Moderator/Demigod Posts: 17244 Joined: 29-September 02 From: Sunny South USA Member No.: 267 |
I too was thinking, "Gosh, they shouldn't have left that Engine lying around in Vancouver."
Also, I have only just now realized that Oma is Hope from thirtysomething! I knew who "Jim" was almost from the beginning, however--and I don't just mean the first partner of Mike Logan on Law and Order.  And, poor Pete. Not that I didn't see it coming, but he was all ready with the house and the dog. Cardie -------------------- Nothing succeeds like excess.
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Mar 11 2005, 09:40 PM
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Dr. Who 1963-89, 1996, 2005- Group: Islander Posts: 40216 Joined: 28-September 02 From: Columbus, Ohio Member No.: 211 |
^^^Well at least they didn't off Pete.
-------------------- The longest-running science fiction series: decadent, degenerate and rotten to the core. Power-mad conspirators, Daleks, Sontarans... Cybermen! They're still in the nursery compared to us. Forty-three years of absolute fandom. That's what it takes to be really critical.
"Don't mistake a few fans bitching on the Internet for any kind of trend." - Keith R.A. DeCandido |
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Mar 11 2005, 09:50 PM
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jjjjjjjjjJazzjjjjjjjj Group: Islander Posts: 4812 Joined: 26-May 04 From: Lone Star galaxy Member No.: 905 |
QUOTE(Cardie @ Mar 11 2005, 08:39 PM) And, poor Pete. Not that I didn't see it coming, but he was all ready with the house and the dog. I wonder if it was the dog from his TV commercial. 
-------------------- Like cats, in one way or another we're all waiting for the sound of the can opener (the sound of something good to come). |
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Mar 11 2005, 10:53 PM
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jjjjjjjjjJazzjjjjjjjj Group: Islander Posts: 4812 Joined: 26-May 04 From: Lone Star galaxy Member No.: 905 |
Having only seen this episode once so far, I might have missed something, but I got to wondering: If Anubis used to be a Gaould, then was it the symbiote that ascended? What about the host it was inhabiting? Did the host ascend, too, or just die? I'm a little confused now. Also, was Anubis ever an Ancient or just a Gaould?
-------------------- Like cats, in one way or another we're all waiting for the sound of the can opener (the sound of something good to come). |
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Mar 11 2005, 11:03 PM
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Dr. Who 1963-89, 1996, 2005- Group: Islander Posts: 40216 Joined: 28-September 02 From: Columbus, Ohio Member No.: 211 |
QUOTE(Jazzergold @ Mar 11 2005, 10:53 PM) Having only seen this episode once so far, I might have missed something, but I got to wondering: If Anubis used to be a Gaould, then was it the symbiote that ascended? What about the host it was inhabiting? Did the host ascend, too, or just die? I'm a little confused now. Also, was Anubis ever an Ancient or just a Gaould? Anubis was a partially ascended Goa'uld, I think his host was dead as soon as he entered the body, he seemed to be burning out his hosts one by one. And no the host didn't ascend, the body you saw in the diner wasn't his host body. -------------------- The longest-running science fiction series: decadent, degenerate and rotten to the core. Power-mad conspirators, Daleks, Sontarans... Cybermen! They're still in the nursery compared to us. Forty-three years of absolute fandom. That's what it takes to be really critical.
"Don't mistake a few fans bitching on the Internet for any kind of trend." - Keith R.A. DeCandido |
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Mar 11 2005, 11:07 PM
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 He's too CUTE to be the Doctor! Group: Islander Posts: 6284 Joined: 19-January 03 From: Tardis Recreation Lounge Member No.: 196 |
QUOTE If Anubis used to be a Gaould, then was it the symbiote that ascended? What about the host it was inhabiting? Did the host ascend, too, or just die? I'm a little confused now. Also, was Anubis ever an Ancient or just a Gaould? Anubis was never an Ancient, just a Gould who ascended by tricking Oma. A good question about the host though, I'd have to assume that since the symbiote was the dominate entity, it was he/it that ascended, and it's original host died.... This post has been edited by cylkoth: Mar 11 2005, 11:14 PM -------------------- I don't want to go!
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Mar 11 2005, 11:28 PM
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jjjjjjjjjJazzjjjjjjjj Group: Islander Posts: 4812 Joined: 26-May 04 From: Lone Star galaxy Member No.: 905 |
QUOTE(DWF @ Mar 11 2005, 10:03 PM) QUOTE(Jazzergold @ Mar 11 2005, 10:53 PM) Having only seen this episode once so far, I might have missed something, but I got to wondering: If Anubis used to be a Gaould, then was it the symbiote that ascended? What about the host it was inhabiting? Did the host ascend, too, or just die? I'm a little confused now. Also, was Anubis ever an Ancient or just a Gaould? Anubis was a partially ascended Goa'uld, I think his host was dead as soon as he entered the body, he seemed to be burning out his hosts one by one. And no the host didn't ascend, the body you saw in the diner wasn't his host body. I didn't think it likely that the body we saw in the diner was his host body - just a virtual representation of his persona and an annoying representation at that, but I suspect that was on purpose. I had just wondered if the person the host body belonged to at the time of Anubis' ascension could have possibly ascended, too, or simply died. -------------------- Like cats, in one way or another we're all waiting for the sound of the can opener (the sound of something good to come). |
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 Mar 11 2005, 11:30 PM
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Dr. Who 1963-89, 1996, 2005- Group: Islander Posts: 40216 Joined: 28-September 02 From: Columbus, Ohio Member No.: 211 |
^^^We don't even know if Anubis had a host when he first ascended.
-------------------- The longest-running science fiction series: decadent, degenerate and rotten to the core. Power-mad conspirators, Daleks, Sontarans... Cybermen! They're still in the nursery compared to us. Forty-three years of absolute fandom. That's what it takes to be really critical.
"Don't mistake a few fans bitching on the Internet for any kind of trend." - Keith R.A. DeCandido |
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Mar 11 2005, 11:42 PM
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Group: Islander Posts: 1691 Joined: 14-January 03 From: United States of America Member No.: 1 |
That was... great. So much more packed in the extra time they had. Like a totally filling (and fulfilling) meal.
Loved that last scene. |
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Mar 11 2005, 11:55 PM
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jjjjjjjjjJazzjjjjjjjj Group: Islander Posts: 4812 Joined: 26-May 04 From: Lone Star galaxy Member No.: 905 |
QUOTE(DWF @ Mar 11 2005, 10:30 PM) ^^^We don't even know if Anubis had a host when he first ascended. If he was a Gaould existing outside of a host body, then wouldn't he have been visibly a "snake", as Jack likes to call them? To survive, the symbiotes seem to need to be either in some kind of nourishing liquid solution or carried in a Jaffa pouch or inhabiting a host body. How could Oma not recognize a "snake"/symbiote if it wasn't inside a body? It seems more likely he could have been in a host body and Oma didn't recognize that there were actually 2 "souls" in the same body, unless maybe the host body (host-person) was freshly dead or dying. -------------------- Like cats, in one way or another we're all waiting for the sound of the can opener (the sound of something good to come). |
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Mar 11 2005, 11:57 PM
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He's too CUTE to be the Doctor! Group: Islander Posts: 6284 Joined: 19-January 03 From: Tardis Recreation Lounge Member No.: 196 |
QUOTE(DWF @ Mar 11 2005, 10:30 PM) ^^^We don't even know if Anubis had a host when he first ascended. It'd be hard for the worm to dial the stargate to reach the planet where Oma resided-the one SG-1 visited to find the Harciss(?) infant born of Sha're/Amonette, and trick her into teaching him how to ascend.
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Mar 12 2005, 12:04 AM
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jjjjjjjjjJazzjjjjjjjj Group: Islander Posts: 4812 Joined: 26-May 04 From: Lone Star galaxy Member No.: 905 |
QUOTE(cylkoth @ Mar 11 2005, 10:57 PM) QUOTE(DWF @ Mar 11 2005, 10:30 PM) ^^^We don't even know if Anubis had a host when he first ascended. It'd be hard for the worm to dial the stargate to reach the planet where Oma resided-the one SG-1 visited to find the Harciss(?) infant born of Sha're/Amonette, and trick her into teaching him how to ascend. Ah, ha! Good point! Good deductive reasoning there! Thank you, "Holmes"!
-------------------- Like cats, in one way or another we're all waiting for the sound of the can opener (the sound of something good to come). |
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